Komi pie: will it ever become widely used?

Kirby · **#101**

Bantari wrote:

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Well, not trying to be mean or anything, but you behave a little like a dog with a bone. I sympathize - this is where I have to slap myself on the wrist for a lot too. But at some point you have to accept that you said what you needed to say, and now its up to the people to make up their minds. Insisting that you are right and arguing until either all get bored or offended is counter-productive.
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Perhaps. To be honest, it is difficult for me to think this way. In written discussion, I feel that I am pretty open about my thought process. When there is a conflicting thought process, I like to challenge it to see why that thought process is not the same as my thought process. When I feel that my thought process is logical, despite reading a conflicting idea, I try to phrase things in a different way.

Regarding "what I need to say"... Is there anything I need to say at all? Sometimes, I "say" (write) things on the forum as a way of confirming my own thoughts. I would not say that this is necessary.

Nothing is necessary, really, and if I only said what I need to, I don't think I would post at all. Perhaps that would be a greater pleasure to some users of the forum ;-)

Kirby · **#102**

I probably should also note that I have never played a game using the komi pie rule. :-)

SpongeBob · **#103**

Kirby wrote:

That could be the case, sure. But with the blind bidding, neither side is at an advantage since both players bid.

Blind bidding? How does that work?

ez4u · **#104**

Kirby wrote:

Bantari wrote:

Oh wait... It just occurred to me... if I bump into Kirby in some club, the only way for me to avoid the annoying komi-pie procedure will be to engage in an even more annoying process of trying to convince Kirby that I do not wish to do komi-pie... he might want to run through all the arguments why komi-pie is so good... why I will have to keep repeating that "i don't like it regardless"... over and over... like this thread... nightmare! So maybe its less hassle to just do the darned komi-pie with Kirby.

Or... I know... when I see Kirby - I just run like the wind!!!

Don't worry, in real life I am actually quite well behaved and, perhaps, a bit on the shy side.

BTW, I like your new avatar! :salute:

Bantari · **#105**

ez4u wrote:

Kirby wrote:

Bantari wrote:

Oh wait... It just occurred to me... if I bump into Kirby in some club, the only way for me to avoid the annoying komi-pie procedure will be to engage in an even more annoying process of trying to convince Kirby that I do not wish to do komi-pie... he might want to run through all the arguments why komi-pie is so good... why I will have to keep repeating that "i don't like it regardless"... over and over... like this thread... nightmare! So maybe its less hassle to just do the darned komi-pie with Kirby.

Or... I know... when I see Kirby - I just run like the wind!!!

Don't worry, in real life I am actually quite well behaved and, perhaps, a bit on the shy side.

BTW, I like your new avatar! :salute:

yeah - wanted to say the same thing! Cool cool.

Bantari · **#106**

Kirby wrote:

Nothing is necessary, really, and if I only said what I need to, I don't think I would post at all. Perhaps that would be a greater pleasure to some users of the forum ;-)

Nah.
We all need you here, dude! Saying all you have to say and more. Really.

My point is that sometimes you/me/people tend to over-state their case. This is my impression here, t'is all.
But far it be for me to throw the first stone, heh.
So carry on as you were and don't mind my fussing.

Peyrol · **#107**

I'm delighted my post has generated so much discussion, although I am not sure anyone has been convinced of anything. There's a new Go server BTW, http://Nova.gs and I was told that players can implement komi pie by agreement using chat before the game starts. Perhaps this would be possible on other servers also. I personally would not want to initiate such a conversation, though, unless I knew my opponent well enough to be reasonably certain it would not be annoying to do so.

Go is by far the deepest board game played by a large number of people. If computers ever "conquer" the 19x19 grid, humans might "take refuge" on a larger grid. If that ever happens, that could be an opportunity for proponents of komi pie to make their move. Until then, we shall lurk in the shadows.

Mef · **#108**

Peyrol wrote:

I'm delighted my post has generated so much discussion, although I am not sure anyone has been convinced of anything. There's a new Go server BTW, http://Nova.gs and I was told that players can implement komi pie by agreement using chat before the game starts. Perhaps this would be possible on other servers also. I personally would not want to initiate such a conversation, though, unless I knew my opponent well enough to be reasonably certain it would not be annoying to do so.

Go is by far the deepest board game played by a large number of people. If computers ever "conquer" the 19x19 grid, humans might "take refuge" on a larger grid. If that ever happens, that could be an opportunity for proponents of komi pie to make their move. Until then, we shall lurk in the shadows.

Realistically, any server that let's you set komi allows you to implement it (Offhand, I'm having trouble thinking of a server that doesn't allow for custom komi. I'm fairly certain all the ones I've played a number of games on have it). I don't think a move to 21x21 will happen any time soon (And if we ever do move to 21x21, I'm not so sure we'll be able to overtake computers assuming they can already beat us on 19x19).

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