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Author: | cdybeijing [ Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3299468856 I own the clock linked to above. For some time now, I have been trying to figure out how to program the settings I want. From experimentation, I know that the clock has 9 presets: the first couple are absolute time, 6-8 are fischer time, and number 9 is something like byo-yomi but with only one bonus period. I think options 4-5 are bronstein time (time delay). Does anyone know if this clock is capable of normal Japanese byo-yomi settings with multiple periods? If so, how do I program that? |
Author: | SpongeBob [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
I have this clock and sadly, it is capable of Japanese Byo-yomi only with ONE period. I have not yet seen a Go clock that is capable of multiple Byo-yomi periods. I do not understand why - seems both desirable and easy to implement. |
Author: | Dusk Eagle [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
Ing clocks support multiple byo-yomi periods. However, I am not familiar with any other digital clocks, so I can't say if any others do. |
Author: | Li Kao [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
I don't see the advantage of japanese byo-yomi over time-delay. And time delay has the advantage that if you go 1 second over your period you lose only one second and not a whole period. |
Author: | cdybeijing [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
To be honest, a digital timer needs one and only one setting to be functionally perfect, and that is fischer time. However, people frequently request that we play byo-yomi because that's what everyone is familiar with on KGS. Time delay is the standard from my chess playing days and I agree that it is better than byo-yomi, though not for the reasons you list. Anyway, one last question: what is the standard time setting for weiqi tournaments in China? I believe this clock must be preset for that? |
Author: | kokomi [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
cdybeijing wrote: To be honest, a digital timer needs one and only one setting to be functionally perfect, and that is fischer time. However, people frequently request that we play byo-yomi because that's what everyone is familiar with on KGS. Time delay is the standard from my chess playing days and I agree that it is better than byo-yomi, though not for the reasons you list. Anyway, one last question: what is the standard time setting for weiqi tournaments in China? I believe this clock must be preset for that? byo yomi or sudden death. |
Author: | cdybeijing [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
kokomi wrote: cdybeijing wrote: To be honest, a digital timer needs one and only one setting to be functionally perfect, and that is fischer time. However, people frequently request that we play byo-yomi because that's what everyone is familiar with on KGS. Time delay is the standard from my chess playing days and I agree that it is better than byo-yomi, though not for the reasons you list. Anyway, one last question: what is the standard time setting for weiqi tournaments in China? I believe this clock must be preset for that? byo yomi or sudden death. Is that byo-yomi with a single period? Example: 60 minutes main time + 1 x 1 min? Absolute time for go is ludicrous, especially with the availability of modern digital timers. |
Author: | kokomi [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
kokomi wrote: Have never seen people play single period byo yomi. Hmm, just found the korean Nongshim Cup is single period byo yomi. |
Author: | tealeaf [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:49 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
SpongeBob wrote: I have this clock and sadly, it is capable of Japanese Byo-yomi only with ONE period. I have not yet seen a Go clock that is capable of multiple Byo-yomi periods. I do not understand why - seems both desirable and easy to implement. The Chronos definitely supports multiple byo-yomi periods, as well as just about every other reasonable timing system that I've run into. (That includes a Scrabble mode in which you lose points when you go over your allotted time.) |
Author: | Harleqin [ Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
The funny thing is, I actually have one of those clocks, but I never cared about any other setting than Fischer time. ![]() |
Author: | ethanb [ Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:58 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: anyone familiar with this Chinese go clock? |
SpongeBob wrote: I have this clock and sadly, it is capable of Japanese Byo-yomi only with ONE period. I have not yet seen a Go clock that is capable of multiple Byo-yomi periods. I do not understand why - seems both desirable and easy to implement. I've never seen a go clock that didn't. ![]() The Meijinsen (which I have) supports multiple byo-yomi periods (1-99 periods of 1-60 seconds), as well as Canadian time, Fischer time, sudden death, and a Xiang-qi time mode. |
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