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| Author: | Jujube [ Sat Jul 04, 2015 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
I remember reading something about old NHK games so apologies if this has been posted already! There's some channel on YT that has over a hundred (and counting - last upload was 1hr ago) vintage 100-minute-long recordings of Go games featuring Ishida Yoshio, Rin Kaiho, Otake Hideo, Cho Chikun, Sakata Eio, and loads of other great players. The games are pretty entertaining. It's worth checking it out. (TV show, so Japanese audio). (No affiliation with channel). https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChBH0KskAIwxntKFblS3cQQ/featured |
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| Author: | Bonobo [ Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
Awesome find, Jujube, thank you! |
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| Author: | apetresc [ Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
This is a goldmine! Thank you for finding this, Jujube  I have a sneaky suspicion that the Seattle Go Center might be behind this. I do recall that they had a giant collection of old VHS tapes containing NHK games on their bookshelf. Maybe they've gotten around to digitizing them? |
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| Author: | Jujube [ Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
I recoiled in shock when the camera cut to Ishida Yoshio casually sparking a fag about 5 minutes in to the game. How times have changed. |
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| Author: | oren [ Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
apetresc wrote: This is a goldmine! Thank you for finding this, Jujube I have a sneaky suspicion that the Seattle Go Center might be behind this. I do recall that they had a giant collection of old VHS tapes containing NHK games on their bookshelf. Maybe they've gotten around to digitizing them? No, I've been through those before and the quality was worse and completely disorganized. Someone else is doing this I think. |
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| Author: | mhlepore [ Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
considering NHK had the Shuko documentary removed for copyright infringement reasons, how does anyone see this lasting? |
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| Author: | oren [ Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
mhlepore wrote: considering NHK had the Shuko documentary removed for copyright infringement reasons, how does anyone see this lasting? That's usually why when I find these things, I don't post them up. 
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| Author: | Bonobo [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
FYI: Jonathan Hop (AGA 4d) (link to his SL page) has begun translating those videos to English, the first one is up: (after clicking the “play” symbol, click the white “CC” button to see the subtitles) |
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| Author: | Jujube [ Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
This is going on my to-watch list immediately! |
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| Author: | DJLLAP [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
I have been watching these and playing the game out on my board recently. Does it bother anyone else how they cut away to the commentators who are exploring all sorts of variations from a certain position while there is the mad clicking of stones being laid in the background? Then because I don't understand most of the speech, I don't always catch on to when they start to catch up with the moves that were played. When they cut back to the board, I am 10 moves behind. Come on NHK of 20 years ago! Get your act together and give us one of those little windows that shows the board while to commentators are gabbing. |
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| Author: | oren [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
DJLLAP wrote: I have been watching these and playing the game out on my board recently. Does it bother anyone else how they cut away to the commentators who are exploring all sorts of variations from a certain position while there is the mad clicking of stones being laid in the background? Then because I don't understand most of the speech, I don't always catch on to when they start to catch up with the moves that were played. When they cut back to the board, I am 10 moves behind. Come on NHK of 20 years ago! Get your act together and give us one of those little windows that shows the board while to commentators are gabbing. They have fixed that in the more recent broadcasts. |
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| Author: | ez4u [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
oren wrote: DJLLAP wrote: I have been watching these and playing the game out on my board recently. Does it bother anyone else how they cut away to the commentators who are exploring all sorts of variations from a certain position while there is the mad clicking of stones being laid in the background? Then because I don't understand most of the speech, I don't always catch on to when they start to catch up with the moves that were played. When they cut back to the board, I am 10 moves behind. Come on NHK of 20 years ago! Get your act together and give us one of those little windows that shows the board while to commentators are gabbing. They have fixed that in the more recent broadcasts. [Emphasis added] I'm not sure that NHK can fix that problem! 
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| Author: | aeb [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
Marcel Grünauer wrote: Also, the games are in collections like GoGoD. The ones that aren't soon will be. Looked at the 40th NHK Cup this evening. There are 49 games and I found the SGF for 22. In half a dozen cases both SGF and video are available. See http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/go/games/g ... index.html . Additions and corrections are welcome. |
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| Author: | oren [ Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
ez4u wrote: [Emphasis added] I'm not sure that NHK can fix that problem! Not sure if you were joking or not but this part "Get your act together and give us one of those little windows that shows the board while to commentators are gabbing" has been added. You can see the live board while the commentary is going now. edit... I just realized I misunderstood. I like they added the live board finally but the poster is asking for a separate overlay. Now I got it...
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| Author: | Anzu [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
I've tried studying pro game records in the past, but this is much more exciting! Too bad there's a no-smoking policy where I live, I would've liked to follow the pros' example 
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| Author: | aeb [ Thu Jul 23, 2015 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
aeb wrote: Looked at the 40th NHK Cup this evening. In half a dozen cases both SGF and video are available. See http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/go/games/g ... index.html . Sorted my NHK games, some 1500+, and made them available at the above url and nearby places. There is also a tar file http://homepages.cwi.nl/~aeb/go/games/nhk.tgz . For the early years, information is messy and fragmentary. If there is interest, I can add more video links. |
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| Author: | gowan [ Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
Bonobo wrote: FYI: Jonathan Hop (AGA 4d) (link to his SL page) has begun translating those videos to English, the first one is up: (after clicking the “play” symbol, click the white “CC” button to see the subtitles) The commentary in this game by Cho Chikun is hilarious! The translation doesn't mention that Shimosaka Miori, the announcer-assistant in the commentary, is a pro player herself. |
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| Author: | Shenoute [ Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Over 100 vintage NHK tournament games (YouTube) |
gowan wrote: The commentary in this game by Cho Chikun is hilarious! I really enjoyed it. Not only is it hilarious ("Kimio is a real man's man") but it is also very thorough.
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