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Author: | RobertJasiek [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:09 am ] |
Post subject: | German Championship Preliminaries |
Besides the four prequalified players Dickhut, Teuber, Obenaus and Radmacher, the four top players of the preliminaries qualify: Code: Deutsche Meisterschaft 2012, Vorrunde - After Round 6 Place Name Club Level Rating Score 1 2 3 4 5 6 Points SOS SOSOS 1 Jasiek, Robert Berl 5 Dan 2443 26½ 8+ 3+ 7+ 2= 4+ 6+ 5½ 147½ 869 2 Tarumi, Jun Münc 5 Dan 2525 26½ 10+ 6+ 9+ 1= 3+ 5+ 5½ 145½ 868 3 Welticke, Jonas Bonn 4 Dan 2321 25 5+ 1- 12+ 7+ 2- 4+ 4 146 870½ 4 Liebscher, V. Grei 3 Dan 2303 24 9+ 7- 5+ 6+ 1- 3- 3 146½ 869 5 Terwey, M. Müns 4 Dan 2461 24 3- 8+ 4- 9+ 10+ 2- 3 145½ 866½ 6 Liu Yang Hamb 4 Dan 2336 24 12+ 2- 10+ 4- 11+ 1- 3 144 863 7 Ongaro, David Hamb 3 Dan 2374 24 11+ 4+ 1- 3- 8- 12+ 3 143½ 864½ 8 Landgraf, Marc Dres 4 Dan 2315 24 1- 5- 11+ 10- 7+ 9+ 3 143½ 860½ 9 Budahn, Michael Berl 4 Dan 2386 23 4- 11+ 2- 5- 12+ 8- 2 142½ 862 10 Ente, Lisa Hann 3 Dan 2327 23 2- 12+ 6- 8+ 5- 11- 2 142½ 859½ 11 Kettenring, Th. Münc 3 Dan 2294 23 7- 9- 8- 12+ 6- 10+ 2 139 858 12 Freilos(BYE) Hamb 2 Dan 2100 21 6- 10- 3- 11- 9- 7- 0 142 857½ As usual, SOS creates meaningless results, in particular for places 1 and the place 4 qualification separation. Place 1: Despite cross-pairing in rounds 1 and 2, the first two rounds' SOS contribution of the opponents of players 1 and 2 was worse than lottery. Place 4: The places 4 to 8 sorting was not by skill but by the pairing luck's effect on SOS. With 7 new of 11 participants in comparison to 2011 German Championship preliminaries and finals, the tournament's pairing system has no chance to distinguish SOS from lottery even marginally. A bomb alarm in my train leading to its delay could have had a greater impact easily, but I just barely arrived on time for round 1:) At least the points criterion expresses fairly what has happened in the games, i.e. the two 5d players deserve their final places. Contrarily, the ratings are not reflected so well. |
Author: | karaklis [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
Congratulations to our youngster Jonas. I'll be rooting for him in the German championship. |
Author: | tapir [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:37 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
Congratulations. + I am happy to see that you're sticking to your opinion although SOS awarded you the first place here. But when the 4th player get the qualification with only 3 wins out of 6, he should feel lucky regardless of the tie breaker used. |
Author: | quantumf [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
Players 1 & 2 had a draw in round 4? That's pretty unusual. |
Author: | RobertJasiek [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
The game felt like a draw during opening and middle game, we played equally strongly, did not believe the opponent's forcing moves or let get away with extra-sharp moves and so naturally the endgame byoyomi mistakes cancelled each other:) |
Author: | karaklis [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:03 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
For those who are interested: This is the jigo match between Robert Jasiek and Jun Tarumi: |
Author: | xed_over [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
wait... so if you're using tie-break methods in the tournament, then why allow even komi in the games? |
Author: | ez4u [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:41 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
Congratulations Robert! |
Author: | RobertJasiek [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:21 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: German Championship Preliminaries |
xed_over wrote: if you're using tie-break methods in the tournament, then why allow even komi in the games? Are you asking for the reason of integer komi in that tournament? The idea by its proponents was a greater likelihood of an on average finer number of wins placement criterion so that tiebreakers would be needed less frequently. Of course, this idea overlooks the possibility of a jigo creating a tie on the number of wins:) |
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