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Author: | SmoothOper [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
Looking through some of the more recent tournament championships, I was surprised to see that the orthodox fuseki is used. For example both Park Younghun and Jiang Weijie used it in the 3rd World Meijin championship as well as Hane Naoki vs Yamashita Keigo in the 37th Meijin. This surprised me because I read that the Orthodox Fuseki was considered somewhat obsolete due to komi, which forced black to be more aggressive. |
Author: | emeraldemon [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
ez4u posted some very cool graphs of the popularity of different fuseki over time: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5934 In particular check out this graph: http://fukasawa.smugmug.com/Hobbies/SL/ ... -50-X3.png |
Author: | SmoothOper [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
emeraldemon wrote: ez4u posted some very cool graphs of the popularity of different fuseki over time: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5934 In particular check out this graph: http://fukasawa.smugmug.com/Hobbies/SL/ ... -50-X3.png I have seen that thread. The Orthodox fuseki is obviously popular among all shimari, but I don't see that any of those charts compare how often a shimari is played say compared to nirense. |
Author: | snorri [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
Fashion is funny. Yes, this was less in style for a while because in a high komi game, the wedge of ![]() But you may have noticed that ![]() This is because players came with some new plans as black that are pretty active and won games, such as this one: Of course, white can play other ways, but there was an increase in research and experimentation in the past few years. But you may have noticed that ![]() This is because players came with some new plans as black that are pretty active and won games, such as this one: So white started playing this ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | snorri [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:35 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
BTW, one of my favorite "new" fusekis is this one, which is starting to show up again when two players with fighting styles play. The funny part is it dates from 1620 or thereabouts. ![]() Baduk TV has a good English VOD on a game between Mok Chin-seok and Won Seongjin that started this way. In 2009. And somehow it turns into a moyo game, so players are creative. ![]() |
Author: | SmoothOper [ Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
snorri wrote: Fashion is funny. Go figure! That is interesting. So because black can ignore the invasion which doesn't have enough tempo, and make a mini Chinese/Kobayshi type approach, white is forced to fight the pincher. Which seems to be fairly consistent with Cho U's book on the double keima. It is starting to make sense. |
Author: | Phelan [ Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Orthodox Fuseki In the Modern Tournament Championships |
snorri wrote: But you may have noticed that ![]() This is because players came with some new plans as black that are pretty active and won games, such as this one: But you may have noticed that ![]() This is because players came with some new plans as black that are pretty active and won games, such as this one: Copy paste error? |
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