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Author:  SmoothOper [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  tsumego books accesible to non-go players
Are there any good tsumego books that would be accessible to non-go players(IE my wife) I don't think my tesuji or yose books would work, ideally they would also appeal to me, but not 100% necessary.
Author:  skydyr [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
Graded Go Problems for Beginners, Vol. 1 may be a good choice. It literally starts with pulling a stone out of atari, and moves on from there.

I haven't looked at the later volumes, but I suspect Vol. 2 is a good follow up.
Author:  SmoothOper [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
That isn't quite what I was thinking about, since it seems to cover tesuji as well as tsumego. I am thinking more like Hye Yeon's tsumego app. I just went and looked at the beginner section, which I has skipped. Each of the problems is isolated from the whole board, maybe I will see if she would be interested in it.
Author:  xed_over [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:58 am ]
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you might consider trying Cacomo
http://www.usgo.org/news/2013/02/cacomo ... to-iphone/
Author:  Uberdude [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
Cho U has made some little books of go puzzles for kids on a 4x4 board. They are not really using familiar Go shapes so Go knowledge doesn't really help with them, they are more like puzzles for the back of a newspaper so are probably more accessible to non-Go players.
Author:  lobotommy [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:31 pm ]
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Nihon kiin Tsumego Master App has a good amount of simple problems
Author:  SmoothOper [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
SmoothOper wrote:
That isn't quite what I was thinking about, since it seems to cover tesuji as well as tsumego. I am thinking more like Hye Yeon's tsumego app. I just went and looked at the beginner section, which I has skipped. Each of the problems is isolated from the whole board, maybe I will see if she would be interested in it.


The app worked. my wife was gleefully guessing and testing her way through the 30 kyu problems.

I guess the next question is, how to keep the indoctrination going, and expand. I expect at some point the problems become too hard.
Author:  skydyr [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
SmoothOper wrote:
SmoothOper wrote:
That isn't quite what I was thinking about, since it seems to cover tesuji as well as tsumego. I am thinking more like Hye Yeon's tsumego app. I just went and looked at the beginner section, which I has skipped. Each of the problems is isolated from the whole board, maybe I will see if she would be interested in it.


The app worked. my wife was gleefully guessing and testing her way through the 30 kyu problems.

I guess the next question is, how to keep the indoctrination going, and expand. I expect at some point the problems become too hard.


Which app did you use?
Author:  SmoothOper [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
skydyr wrote:
SmoothOper wrote:
SmoothOper wrote:
That isn't quite what I was thinking about, since it seems to cover tesuji as well as tsumego. I am thinking more like Hye Yeon's tsumego app. I just went and looked at the beginner section, which I has skipped. Each of the problems is isolated from the whole board, maybe I will see if she would be interested in it.


The app worked. my wife was gleefully guessing and testing her way through the 30 kyu problems.

I guess the next question is, how to keep the indoctrination going, and expand. I expect at some point the problems become too hard.


Which app did you use?


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/hys-cre ... 06462?mt=8
Author:  lobotommy [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
Best problems collection for absolute beginners has EasyGo - it has really huge library. HY Creative tsumego app mentioned above has very bad interface in my opinion, and there is a lot of bad design decisions.
Author:  golem7 [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
For a complete beginner I suggest this nice introduction to go:
http://playgo.to/iwtg/en/
Author:  Phelan [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
golem7 wrote:
For a complete beginner I suggest this nice introduction to go:
http://playgo.to/iwtg/en/

That's not quite the idea in the OP. It's not to get someone introduced to Go. It's to get them to do Go problems without being introduced to Go.
Author:  SmoothOper [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
Phelan wrote:
golem7 wrote:
For a complete beginner I suggest this nice introduction to go:
http://playgo.to/iwtg/en/

That's not quite the idea in the OP. It's not to get someone introduced to Go. It's to get them to do Go problems without being introduced to Go.


Right, do go problems no go playing involved. Think crossword puzzles or sudoku. My wife is progressing pretty well through HY's book, she even played out a ladder. She thinks the 17 kyu puzzles are hard. The ranking system seems to give a sense of accomplishment kind of like video games, but some of the problems seem to be of the same difficulty, others are quite a bit more difficult though.

It would be nice to switch over to problem books at some point, but the app seems to be more enjoyable for now, because once you look at the solution to a paper problem you see the whole thing. Maybe I could set up problems on a board.
Author:  golem7 [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
Phelan wrote:
golem7 wrote:
For a complete beginner I suggest this nice introduction to go:
http://playgo.to/iwtg/en/

That's not quite the idea in the OP. It's not to get someone introduced to Go. It's to get them to do Go problems without being introduced to Go.

It's impossible to do problems without being introduced to the rules of play. The tutorial I suggested is a very nice step-by-step problem-based introduction (capture,double atari,ladders,nets,eyes and so on). Even my ex-gf liked it though she had no interest in go at all. Give it a try ;)
Author:  SmoothOper [ Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
golem7 wrote:
It's impossible to do problems without being introduced to the rules of play.


I don't think that is true, for example scoring rules aren't necessary for simple capture and life and death problems.
Author:  Phelan [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: tsumego books accesible to non-go players
golem7 wrote:
Phelan wrote:
golem7 wrote:
For a complete beginner I suggest this nice introduction to go:
http://playgo.to/iwtg/en/

That's not quite the idea in the OP. It's not to get someone introduced to Go. It's to get them to do Go problems without being introduced to Go.

It's impossible to do problems without being introduced to the rules of play. The tutorial I suggested is a very nice step-by-step problem-based introduction (capture,double atari,ladders,nets,eyes and so on). Even my ex-gf liked it though she had no interest in go at all. Give it a try ;)

You do realize that almost everyone started through that site? It's no news.

And it appears to be possible, according to SmoothGoOper.
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