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Offline kgsbaduk
 Post subject: the sakata eio way of playing
Post #1 Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:23 am 
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like in topic. any advices ? which pro continues his style ?

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Offline emeraldemon
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Post #2 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:51 am 
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Offline kgsbaduk
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Post #3 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:16 am 
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Yes of course. but with the myoshu problem is there is no books about it. So harder to even study this.

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Offline gowan
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Post #4 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:21 am 
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Sakata's style was his own. No one can play exactly like anyone else you have to play your own way. However if you want to study Sakata's way of playing perhaps the best way is to study his games.

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Offline Tryphon
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Post #5 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:25 am 
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IIRC Sakata was playing teritory, letting all the influence to his opponent, then managed to make an unkillable invasion ?

Isn't it the style of ChoChiKun (especially against Takemiya) ?

There's a french translated book by Takemiya where he comments sequences of his games, noticeably against Cho Chi Kun. I always felt sad not to have Cho's comments about these games !
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Offline Adrian Ghioc
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Post #6 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:32 am 
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Tryphon wrote:
IIRC Sakata was playing teritory, letting all the influence to his opponent, then managed to make an unkillable invasion ?

Isn't it the style of ChoChiKun (especially against Takemiya) ?


http://senseis.xmp.net/?Amashi ;-)
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Offline tchan001
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Post #7 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:38 am 
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http://tchan001.wordpress.com/2010/04/2 ... 2-volumes/
Obviously the sakata eio way of playing is probably best explained by Sakata himself. This is a nice set of Chinese books written by him which should go quite a ways in helping you understand the man and his methods.

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Offline kgsbaduk
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Post #8 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:05 pm 
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tchan001 wrote:
http://tchan001.wordpress.com/2010/04/29/sakata-eio-weiqi-collection-12-volumes/
Obviously the sakata eio way of playing is probably best explained by Sakata himself. This is a nice set of Chinese books written by him which should go quite a ways in helping you understand the man and his methods.



too bad ... this books arent translated to english.

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Offline Tryphon
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Post #9 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:15 pm 
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Adrian Ghioc wrote:
Tryphon wrote:
IIRC Sakata was playing teritory, letting all the influence to his opponent, then managed to make an unkillable invasion ?

Isn't it the style of ChoChiKun (especially against Takemiya) ?


http://senseis.xmp.net/?Amashi ;-)


I learnt a word :)

Are there books (in english, or french, no I'm joking) on this topic ?
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Offline Adrian Ghioc
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Post #10 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:42 pm 
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Tryphon wrote:
I learnt a word :)

Are there books (in english, or french, no I'm joking) on this topic ?


Yes and no :)

The "yes part": there are quite many English books on tesuji and life & death :shock: (Disappointed? Here is the explanation: without a very good reading ability playing amashi is a kind of gambling ;-) )
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Offline John Fairbairn
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Post #11 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:03 pm 
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Are there books (in english, or french, no I'm joking) on this topic ?


You can try the GoGoD Concepts Library:

http://www.gogod.co.uk/Concepts/Concepts.htm
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Offline Tryphon
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Post #12 Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:40 pm 
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Thanks for this link :)
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