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Author:  Solomon [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:33 pm ]
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but what about setting http://lifein19x19.com to just go straight to http://lifein19x19.com/forum? The stuff like "Sudoku" and "Open Source Files" just don't really fit, and there are many sites/database that are superior to the "Pro Game Database". The twitter feed on the right seems to just tweet from goBum and goProverbs rather than show Go-related tweets, and the Papyrus logo is still there :p. I suppose a large renovation on the front page is possible too, but I think it's less work and more sensible to just have it redirect to the forum. What do you guys think?

Author:  ChradH [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:09 pm ]
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Now that you mention it - I completely forgot about the main page after my first visit because I bookmarked /forum and lived happily ever after :D

[edit] But you have a point: The main page looks strange compared to the forums and has some strange content. And that's what a first time visitor gets to see...

Author:  apetresc [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:56 am ]
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I agree, it's not the greatest first impression to give a new user... I think we should redirect straight to the forum until we get something more solid together for a front page.

Author:  Javaness [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:09 pm ]
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Those pages were there before the forum, I don't see why you should pretend they don't exist?

Author:  Solomon [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:14 pm ]
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Javaness wrote:
Those pages were there before the forum, I don't see why you should pretend they don't exist?

Not pretending they don't exist; rather, I think we've cultivated the image that Life in 19x19 is a forum, so it only makes sense that the front page is a forum, not a portal with Sudoku and a Twitter feed.

Author:  kirkmc [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:24 pm ]
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Well, it was a web site before it was a forum, and I think we should respect that Jordus set up that site when he did. It's his site, and if he wants to keep it that way, it's totally his call.

Author:  CarlJung [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:49 pm ]
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Araban wrote:
Javaness wrote:
I think we've cultivated the image that Life in 19x19 is a forum


Hopefully, at some point, it will be extended to include book reviews like gd had. So we might not want to make it a forum-only site.

Author:  IAmNotWhoYouThinkIAm [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:52 pm ]
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I didn't even know there was a front page. GD had the link to the forum and I clicked on it, bookmarked it, and that is all I have seen.

Author:  Jordus [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:54 pm ]
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CarlJung wrote:
Araban wrote:
Javaness wrote:
I think we've cultivated the image that Life in 19x19 is a forum


Hopefully, at some point, it will be extended to include book reviews like gd had. So we might not want to make it a forum-only site.



I am hoping we can extend the front page with something like carljung has mentioned. There is no particular design that the front page has to stick to. I was going to mention suggestions for a frontpage redesign once the forum features were pretty much 100%.

Author:  cthomas [ Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:19 pm ]
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"This really worries me. To me it's looking very holly-hobby amateur hour.

Author:  xed_over [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:53 am ]
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There are some people stuck at GD because they can't reach this sight from their work. Apparently this site has been flagged as a gaming site. Could it be from the current front page?

If that's true, it won't be long before I'll be blocked as well.

Author:  Jordus [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:07 am ]
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xed_over wrote:
There are some people stuck at GD because they can't reach this sight from their work. Apparently this site has been flagged as a gaming site. Could it be from the current front page?

If that's true, it won't be long before I'll be blocked as well.


http://www.websitedenied.com/testsite/default.php

according to that there is no category for it. But we are looking into it.

For now, I removed search engine tags "board game" and removed the sudoku game as well.

Author:  IAmNotWhoYouThinkIAm [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:29 am ]
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xed_over wrote:
There are some people stuck at GD because they can't reach this sight from their work. Apparently this site has been flagged as a gaming site. Could it be from the current front page?

If that's true, it won't be long before I'll be blocked as well.


Well, if your employer doesn't want you here then should you really be here?

Author:  xed_over [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:31 am ]
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IAmNotWhoYouThinkIAm wrote:
Well, if your employer doesn't want you here then should you really be here?

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Author:  ChradH [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:49 am ]
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IAmNotWhoYouThinkIAm wrote:
xed_over wrote:
There are some people stuck at GD because they can't reach this sight from their work. Apparently this site has been flagged as a gaming site. Could it be from the current front page?

If that's true, it won't be long before I'll be blocked as well.


Well, if your employer doesn't want you here then should you really be here?

Sakata, is that you? :shock:

Author:  schultz [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:01 pm ]
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xed_over wrote:
IAmNotWhoYouThinkIAm wrote:
Well, if your employer doesn't want you here then should you really be here?

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Love that comic. Did that today -- checking this site. :)

Luckily this site isn't blocked at my work yet, hopefully that doesn't change.

Author:  HermanHiddema [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:33 am ]
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kirkmc wrote:
Well, it was a web site before it was a forum, and I think we should respect that Jordus set up that site when he did. It's his site, and if he wants to keep it that way, it's totally his call.


I disagree strongly with this. The whole idea behind the move was that we wanted a community operated site, where the community decides what happens. Jordus has already said that he would be willing to donate the domain if the community wants him to. (I'm not saying he should, I'm quite happy with the way he's running the site. Obviously he himself also supports the idea that the community as a whole decides)

Author:  ross [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:47 am ]
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I think the front page is very, uh, "holly-hobby amateur hour" (no offense, Jordus), but I think getting rid of it completely is unnecessary. It's easy to complain and criticize, and not so easy to create. I'd put forward a challenge to create a better front page (in much the same way that there was a challenge to create a better logo banner for the site), and whoever comes up with the best one, we can use their newly-designed front page as a replacement. While I'm not completely against criticism from those who can't do any better, I think in this case we as L19ers can be a little more constructive—there are a lot of talented people here.

Author:  fwiffo [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:05 am ]
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Yes, just because you're not an official mod or admin, don't feel shy about contributing. If anyone feels like making graphics, or redesigning the front page, or making a custom pretty phpbb theme, go right ahead.

Author:  Jordus [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:07 pm ]
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I will be removing the twitter widget to see if that helps with the blocking at work issues.

Also, does anyone know what filters the buisnesses that are blocking it are using?

Mcafee trusted source?

websense?

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