Sanrensei question

EdLee · **#21**

Hi Bill,

Bill Spight wrote:

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Then

is simple and strong.

Hi Bill, how do you feel about this :b4:

extend instead of connect ?
(Because the solid connect :b4:

allows the big point :white:

(a) in the above diagram.)

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oca · **#22**

Thx Bill !

While we are with the sanrensei, what about just that simple :w1:

(Igowin plays that from time to time),
Is a reply at "a" or "b" correct ?

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EdLee · **#23**

Hi oca,

at (a) is a standard beginner mistake. (I just saw this kind of move discussed in a review on KGS last night! )

:b2:

at (b) is a much better reply.

oca · **#24**

EdLee wrote:

Hi oca,

at (a) is a standard beginner mistake. (I just saw this kind of move discussed in a review on KGS last night! )

:b2:

at (b) is a much better reply.

Thx EdLee, that's good to know !

tj86430 · **#25**

EdLee wrote:

Hi oca,

at (a) is a standard beginner mistake. (I just saw this kind of move discussed in a review on KGS last night! )

:b2:

at (b) is a much better reply.

how about one point above a?

EdLee · **#26**

tj86430 wrote:

how about one point above a?

Hi TJ, good question. That kosumi (diagonal move for Black) is also a better move than :black:

(a).

How to decide between the kosumi and (b) depends on the whole board situation (as usual

).

tj86430 · **#27**

EdLee wrote:

tj86430 wrote:

how about one point above a?

Hi TJ, good question. That kosumi (diagonal move for Black) is also a better move than :black:

(a).

How to decide between the kosumi and (b) depends on the whole board situation (as usual

).

There was a whole board in oca's post. What would you choose in that situation?

EdLee · **#28**

Hi TJ, I'm not sure, but probably (b);

Bill Spight · **#29**

tj86430 wrote:

EdLee wrote:

Hi oca,

at (a) is a standard beginner mistake. (I just saw this kind of move discussed in a review on KGS last night! )

:b2:

at (b) is a much better reply.

how about one point above a?

Apparently you meant the kosumi. But in case you meant the attachment, . . .

tj86430 · **#30**

Bill Spight wrote:

Apparently you meant the kosumi. But in case you meant the attachment, . . .

Indeed I did. But what you presented was very interesting, and I thank you for that.

oca · **#31**

Thanks Bill,

I'm curious about that one... I feel like white doesn't get that much here

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I suppose I would play "a" as beeing white

Bill Spight · **#32**

oca wrote:

Thanks Bill,

I'm curious about that one... I feel like white doesn't get that much {in this diagram}.

That's my feeling, too.

Quote:

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I suppose I would play "a" as beeing white

There are a lot of possibilities. Better to wait and see.

Bill Spight · **#33**

The jump attachment appeared in an earlier book, Okigo Jizai, by Hattori Inshuku, the founder of the Hattori House. Here are a couple of variations from a 6 stone opening.

Comments by Hattori.

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