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Author: | Numsgil [ Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Just count the score |
There's a lot of resources on how to count the score, but usually it's framed for the middle game or end game. Which makes sense; that's when you need to know the score. But counting an unfinished game is difficult, especially if it's close. Is that half point ko that threatens to kill your group necessary to win? Better hope you can count each and every last stone on the board, plus any prisoners, and then account for komi. So here's some counting practice. To channel Kageyama, anyone who can't count even a finished game has a doubtful future ![]() For prisoners, ![]() Correct count is in the hide tags (but I may have transcribed wrong, so take them with a grain of salt if you keep counting something different). Position 1 Black got everything he wanted, and white failed to make sabaki. Should white just resign gracefully? Position 2 Such a messy board! How can I do a proper count if you can't even keep things tidy. Position 3 White's corner is huge! Does black have enough to counter that? Position 4 Dame and dumplings everywhere Position 5 Lots of dead stones here, but don't let them distract you. |
Author: | Abyssinica [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:10 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
Score 1: I think I took 2-3 minutes. I'll try to get to the rest of them later. |
Author: | DrStraw [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
I disagree with position 2 |
Author: | Uberdude [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:41 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
DrStraw wrote: I disagree with position 2 I don't. |
Author: | Numsgil [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
Abyssinica wrote: Score 1: I think I took 2-3 minutes. I'll try to get to the rest of them later. Close. Try recounting and see if you get a different number. I usually have to count 3 to 5 times before I actually get the same number twice ![]() |
Author: | Aidoneus [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:31 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
I think that I took 2 minutes to get W + 12.5 for the second game. Then 10 minutes to create the position in MFoG to get W + 13.5. So, maybe it's time for a new prescription. ![]() |
Author: | DrStraw [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:39 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
Uberdude wrote: DrStraw wrote: I disagree with position 2 I don't. |
Author: | Numsgil [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:02 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
DrStraw wrote: Uberdude wrote: DrStraw wrote: I disagree with position 2 I don't. Sorry, I can see how the prisoners are confusing. You have it backwards. Black has 6 captures and White has 12 captures. I was trying to mimic seeing stones on the side of the board, but it's easy to be mistaken and read it as ![]() |
Author: | Aidoneus [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:04 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
I thought that ![]() ![]() |
Author: | DrStraw [ Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Just count the score |
Numsgil wrote: Sorry, I can see how the prisoners are confusing. You have it backwards. Black has 6 captures and White has 12 captures. I was trying to mimic seeing stones on the side of the board, but it's easy to be mistaken and read it as ![]() Ah, I see now. Yes, that is how I read it. Yours probably is a more natural reading now I come to think of it. |
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