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Author:  TheCatLver [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Fading a goban?
So I'm just wondering, is it possible to fade a super-yellow YMI goban to a more...less vomit inducing shade? Because as some of you know, I'm still on the look out for a new board(but I'm choosy and all that, since I'm afraid of buying the wrong equipment or not getting my money worth, and I know it gets annoying with my lurkiness, so I'm sorry if it seem like I'm spambotting :bow: ) And after scouring the forum, I believe that at least one other also share my aversion to excessively yellow thing.
Anyway, a 6cm board from YMI is $200, but reallllyy yellow. A 6cm from gogamguru is $240, but a much more pleasing tone. I'mstill really considering about buying from taobao through an agent, but unlikely, since most of them seem to only be reliable in shipping lolita and cosplay stuff, plus the shipping is frighteningly high.

Again, sorry for keep lurking-ing around and somehow still manage to not have a new board to show :)

thank you for all of your Internet-y wisdom and help :bow:

(p.s- I have no experience in anything relating to wood so my apology if my question sound horrendously stupid)
Author:  EdLee [ Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:11 pm ]
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I also cannot stand the yellow paint.
Get a nice shinkaya table board with natural wood tone.
If you're going to use it for more than 10 years,
amortize the cost. I got my two Japanese shinkaya table boards
over 10 years ago from Samarkand.net before they stopped
selling Go equipment, for about US$100 each then.
That's $10/year (currently under 3 pennies per day); I regularly use them,
and I hope to continue to use them for decades to come.
They are still in excellent condition, with good care.

Shown in my avatar.
Author:  joellercoaster [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:13 am ]
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EdLee wrote:
I also cannot stand the yellow paint.
Get a nice shinkaya table board with natural wood tone.


+1

I can report firsthand that the one TheCatLver is looking at on Go Game Guru is lovely. It was more than I had originally budgeted but I have not regretted it for a second in the months since it arrived.
Author:  TheCatLver [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
joellercoaster wrote:
EdLee wrote:
I also cannot stand the yellow paint.
Get a nice shinkaya table board with natural wood tone.


+1

I can report firsthand that the one TheCatLver is looking at on Go Game Guru is lovely. It was more than I had originally budgeted but I have not regretted it for a second in the months since it arrived.


well, if we're doing calculation, I have a 95% chance of continuing to play for the next 5+ years, which mean that if I pay a total of around $300(the absolute max that I will fork over) that come out to about (300/(365x5)=.16) so 16 cent per day, about how much I pick up from the ground per day worth.

If I buy the gogameguru board, that's without stone, since the with stone is..wheew, that's an extra $50 that I don't have. And YMI have both stone, bowls AND board for the low low price of $263, the only downfall is that damn yellowness.

But back to the main point, I heard that you can fade wood, but I don't really grasp the whole concept. What I imagined is that if I have a bit of patience and hold back my bile, I can somehow fade the overly yellow wood to a lighter, more tolerable shade. But is that possible?

p.s I don't think that the yellow is the paint but more of how they treat the wood perhaps? :-?
Author:  EdLee [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:29 am ]
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TheCatLver wrote:
I can somehow fade the overly yellow wood to a lighter, more tolerable shade. But is that possible?

p.s I don't think that the yellow is the paint but more of how they treat the wood perhaps? :-?
If you leave the board under harsh sunlight,
many things will fade, including coloring. So you may end up with a subdued,
perhaps whitish, creamy yellow — are you OK with this for years ?

I cannot detect anything visually "wood" under the yellow.
The yellow coating completely covers up the material
underneath, which is the point. Whether it's styrofoam or
plastic or cardboard underneath, I cannot tell by sight
(knocking gives additional clues.)
Author:  ez4u [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
Just play on it for fifty years. What's the problem? :scratch:
Author:  wineandgolover [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:06 am ]
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Get the board you really want now.

Someday in the not too distant future you will get an unexpected windfall. Then buy nice stones.

Don't compromise for a 20% discount. Seriously.
Author:  gowan [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
Isn't it interesting how people are willing to spend other people's money? Well, from the information you've given, I'd recommend buying frpm Yutopian: http://yutopian.com/go/

They are a reputable company and they have

2" Agathis board $80 (not yellow)
2" Spruce (Shin kaya) board $95

Ing plastic stones and bowls $35
Korean glass stones 8 mm $21
9.5 mm $38

At these prices you could afford to buy bowls, too. Of course there is shipping and handling, see the web site for cost.
Author:  TheCatLver [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
gowan wrote:
Isn't it interesting how people are willing to spend other people's money? Well, from the information you've given, I'd recommend buying frpm Yutopian: http://yutopian.com/go/

They are a reputable company and they have

2" Agathis board $80 (not yellow)
2" Spruce (Shin kaya) board $95

Ing plastic stones and bowls $35
Korean glass stones 8 mm $21
9.5 mm $38

At these prices you could afford to buy bowls, too. Of course there is shipping and handling, see the web site for cost.


Gowan, you get me :lol:

I actually had already took a look at those board, the shin-kaya looks painted, so does the agathis, so both of them was noooonnn.

So, bottom line, all other suggestion aside, can I reallly fade a board? I'll take a creamy tone over this ugly-butt yellow any days.
Author:  Aidoneus [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:25 am ]
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If this is your first board or you are on a budget, have you considered bamboo? Environmentally friendly and inexpensive (less than $50): http://www.ymimports.com/Engraved-Bambo ... rchSize=12

I bought this board and yunzi stones with mahogany bowls for my first set. The board probably doesn't sound as nice as shin-kaya--which I've never been near--but it sure isn't yellow!
Author:  TheCatLver [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:33 am ]
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if you look at my avatar, you will see a majestic feline on top of my old bamboo board.she has also made it into a scratching post, I am very suspicous at the fact that the bamboo may have been treated with catnip ;-) . Don't worry, the new board will be under a plastic cover, locks, and 10 tons of cement :lol:

nawh, just kidding, that's not even my cat, it's my friend. But still, I have considered bamboo, but still, a real wood board is still better :scratch: , I guess? I'm still exploring all my option here, very very very picky as a person.
Author:  EdLee [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:39 pm ]
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TheCatLver wrote:
a real wood board is still better :scratch: , I guess? I'm still exploring all my option here, very very very picky as a person.
Yes. Some people probably like a bamboo board,
but you'll probably prefer the sound and the feel of real wood.
Author:  Polama [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 12:42 pm ]
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TheCatLver wrote:
So, bottom line, all other suggestion aside, can I reallly fade a board? I'll take a creamy tone over this ugly-butt yellow any days.


I'm no authority, but probably? UV light does pretty consistently fade the color of paints. I've also seen painted things left out in the light crack as well though, so that's a risk. Exactly what tone it'll fade to is going to depend on the paint.
Author:  gowan [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
I have no personal invetment is what you choose but if you think the Yutopian spruce board is painted, why not email them and ask? I know the 2" agathis boards are painted but I've never heard of spruce boards being painted. By the way, FWIW, the Korean pros use 2" agathis boards for their tournaments. It seems you would be taking a risk of damage in trying to fade a board.
Author:  Aidoneus [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:34 pm ]
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Too yellow? http://www.amazon.com/Once-Lifetime-Go- ... B00CQZ8D8I

The shin-kaya boards are not painted--at least the ones from Yellow Mountain Imports just have a clear finish. And from what I can find, kaya is typically a yellow wood. Multiple threads about selecting gobans on L19:

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=4913
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=9758
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3609
Author:  xed_over [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
TheCatLver wrote:
gowan wrote:
2" Agathis board $80 (not yellow)
2" Spruce (Shin kaya) board $95


I actually had already took a look at those board, the shin-kaya looks painted, so does the agathis, so both of them was noooonnn.

I don't think so. It might be a stain, but not paint.

I've seen their boards in person. They are very beautiful boards.
they usually come to the annual US Go Congress every year to sell their books and equipment.
Author:  jeromie [ Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
I have a YMI shin-kaya board (though mine is a multiple piece 1.25" board, so not as nice as the one in question), and I see no evidence of it having been painted. I suppose there could be a wash that I haven't noticed, but if so it's applied with remarkable regularity and shows no seams even where the board has experienced a few nicks and dents. It IS more yellow than the one shown in the GoGameGuru pictures, but that may just be the wood choice. There are a variety of spruce-related species that are all called shin-kaya.

In some ways, that gives more hope to the prospect of the color changing over time; wood does fade. But I've had mine for three years and its about the same color as when I got it. I don't think that the board would hold up well under the conditions that would be required for it to change color more quickly. A single piece board would have a better chance of survival than mine, but I still think it would be very harsh on the wood and likely to cause damage.
Author:  TheCatLver [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
jeromie wrote:
It IS more yellow than the one shown in the GoGameGuru pictures, but that may just be the wood choice. There are a variety of spruce-related species that are all called shin-kaya.

A single piece board would have a better chance of survival than mine, but I still think it would be very harsh on the wood and likely to cause damage.


The wood use in gogameguru board is Alaskan spruce, where I suspect the cold weather and long season of lack of sunlight may be a contributing factor to its color. The wood for YMI is tibetan spruce, how it manage it to be that yellow though, I'm guessing it's because of how golden buddha is :lol:

I live in Minnesota, but my house is always well humidified (I have chronic dry throat that get raspy really easily), the cat, well, it's a cat. I can try my best to keep it away. But other than that, my house and playing habit won't damage the board that much. I also have UV light (evil science experiment ;-) ). I'm doing side research on my own, so far nothing, maybe I'm not searching the right way. On ward!
Author:  jeromie [ Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:56 am ]
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On a second look with the board in front of me, it does lighter where it's been nicked. I suppose that maybe their "clear" coat isn't actually clear. :-)

Hope you're able to find a board you love at a price you can afford!
Author:  goTony [ Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fading a goban?
Why not sand it down? and reapply lines? I am interested in what an Agathis board that is not painted looks like.
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