Life In 19x19 :: Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol

No, but thx for responding. That program is ok, but not so good like the one from joncol. The one from joncol was very simple and fast and did still have nice feature besies win-loss-ratio, e.g. your worst or best streak etc.

Pippen wrote:

Are you talking about the java one you had to download? I think I had that one around. I'll check later.

KGSAccountant by Matthew Hershberger was the one I was thinking about, but it's also unavailable, and I can't find the copy I thought I had.

@phelan: Yeah, I know the stuff you are talking about and those programs are not bad at all, but joncols program was just better. Common opinion at the time. It's really sad that this little program is lost in space 'n' time^^.

Phelan wrote:

KGSAccountant by Matthew Hershberger was the one I was thinking about, but it's also unavailable, and I can't find the copy I thought I had.

Matthew is a friend of mine--I might be able to get a copy of it from him...albeit not the one pippen is looking for.

Pippen wrote:

Joncol is a friend of mine, I'll drop him a line on FB and ask him if he still has it. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear people still miss his little program. I know I loved it back in the days!

So here's what joncol told me: He took the script down because it couldn't be used anymore because of the limitations that KGS has put on retrieving data. He said he has sent an email now to the admins to see if they can losen up these limitations or not.

I hope they can!

Nope.

Game database searches take up a lot of horsepower. Several people were pounding the KGS server with piles of requests 24 hours a day and making the whole thing slow to a crawl. Having a limitation on how many requests each person can make is necessary to keep the server running well.

wms wrote:

Can't the server just allow a certain numbes of requests? Couldn't KGS even built am own stat tool...one could sell it via KGS+. It's sad because there are still stat tools out there that apparently work, just not as good as joncol. Oh, well, it is what it is, I guess^^.

Mef is right. You can do all the requests you want as long as they are a few seconds apart.

As for mirroring, it would be tricky just because there is private information in the database. Email of users who request that their email be private, real names from people who paid for KGS Plus, etc. Breaking the database apart to safely mirror part of it would be more work than I see myself doing here.

Author:	Pippen [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol
Hi. There was once a very cute KGS-statistics tool from a guy named "joncol", very simple, very effective. It was available via senseis.xmp.net, but no more it is. Does anyone still have the program for I'd like to have it again. If so, just drop it in here in attachment or contact me via pm. I'm wondering anyway why there are so few stat tools for KGS. It could be a real difference maker....

Author:	emeraldemon [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol
Is this what you mean? http://kgs.gosquares.net/

Author:	Pippen [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol
No, but thx for responding. That program is ok, but not so good like the one from joncol. The one from joncol was very simple and fast and did still have nice feature besies win-loss-ratio, e.g. your worst or best streak etc.

Author:	Phelan [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol
Pippen wrote: No, but thx for responding. That program is ok, but not so good like the one from joncol. The one from joncol was very simple and fast and did still have nice feature besies win-loss-ratio, e.g. your worst or best streak etc. Are you talking about the java one you had to download? I think I had that one around. I'll check later.

Author:	Phelan [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol
Phelan wrote: Pippen wrote: No, but thx for responding. That program is ok, but not so good like the one from joncol. The one from joncol was very simple and fast and did still have nice feature besies win-loss-ratio, e.g. your worst or best streak etc. Are you talking about the java one you had to download? I think I had that one around. I'll check later. Actually, the one I was thinking about is not the one by joncol. I think I remember seeing that one once, but don't really remember what it had. Jseki by rosswerner(a member of these forums, although I haven't seen him around a long time ago, sadly) is still available in sourcefourge: http://jseki.sourceforge.net/KgsStatistics/ KGSAccountant by Matthew Hershberger was the one I was thinking about, but it's also unavailable, and I can't find the copy I thought I had.

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Author:	Pippen [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:54 am ]
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@phelan: Yeah, I know the stuff you are talking about and those programs are not bad at all, but joncols program was just better. Common opinion at the time. It's really sad that this little program is lost in space 'n' time^^.

Author:	judicata [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:27 am ]
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Phelan wrote: KGSAccountant by Matthew Hershberger was the one I was thinking about, but it's also unavailable, and I can't find the copy I thought I had. Matthew is a friend of mine--I might be able to get a copy of it from him...albeit not the one pippen is looking for.

Author:	Kanin [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:26 pm ]
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Pippen wrote: @phelan: Yeah, I know the stuff you are talking about and those programs are not bad at all, but joncols program was just better. Common opinion at the time. It's really sad that this little program is lost in space 'n' time^^. Joncol is a friend of mine, I'll drop him a line on FB and ask him if he still has it. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear people still miss his little program. I know I loved it back in the days!

Author:	Phelan [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:55 pm ]
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judicata wrote: Phelan wrote: KGSAccountant by Matthew Hershberger was the one I was thinking about, but it's also unavailable, and I can't find the copy I thought I had. Matthew is a friend of mine--I might be able to get a copy of it from him...albeit not the one pippen is looking for. Kanin wrote: Pippen wrote: @phelan: Yeah, I know the stuff you are talking about and those programs are not bad at all, but joncols program was just better. Common opinion at the time. It's really sad that this little program is lost in space 'n' time^^. Joncol is a friend of mine, I'll drop him a line on FB and ask him if he still has it. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear people still miss his little program. I know I loved it back in the days! Thanks, you two. I'd really appreciate it.

Author:	Pippen [ Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:21 am ]
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Kanin wrote: Joncol is a friend of mine, I'll drop him a line on FB and ask him if he still has it. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear people still miss his little program. I know I loved it back in the days! That'd be awesome. You can also ask him if he ever intends to develop it further.

Author:	Kanin [ Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:03 pm ]
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So here's what joncol told me: He took the script down because it couldn't be used anymore because of the limitations that KGS has put on retrieving data. He said he has sent an email now to the admins to see if they can losen up these limitations or not. I hope they can!

Author:	wms [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:46 am ]
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Kanin wrote: So here's what joncol told me: He took the script down because it couldn't be used anymore because of the limitations that KGS has put on retrieving data. He said he has sent an email now to the admins to see if they can losen up these limitations or not. I hope they can! Nope. Game database searches take up a lot of horsepower. Several people were pounding the KGS server with piles of requests 24 hours a day and making the whole thing slow to a crawl. Having a limitation on how many requests each person can make is necessary to keep the server running well.

Author:	schultz [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:21 pm ]
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wms wrote: Nope. Game database searches take up a lot of horsepower. Several people were pounding the KGS server with piles of requests 24 hours a day and making the whole thing slow to a crawl. Having a limitation on how many requests each person can make is necessary to keep the server running well. Would it be possible to get a mirror of the database for use with tools so it wouldn't hammer the actual server DB? It could even be set up to copy/mirror infrequently to keep the strain down (maybe once daily?).

Author:	Pippen [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Wanted! KGS stat tool from joncol
wms wrote: Nope. Game database searches take up a lot of horsepower. Several people were pounding the KGS server with piles of requests 24 hours a day and making the whole thing slow to a crawl. Having a limitation on how many requests each person can make is necessary to keep the server running well. Can't the server just allow a certain numbes of requests? Couldn't KGS even built am own stat tool...one could sell it via KGS+. It's sad because there are still stat tools out there that apparently work, just not as good as joncol. Oh, well, it is what it is, I guess^^.

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Author:	Mef [ Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:56 pm ]
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Pippen wrote: wms wrote: Nope. Game database searches take up a lot of horsepower. Several people were pounding the KGS server with piles of requests 24 hours a day and making the whole thing slow to a crawl. Having a limitation on how many requests each person can make is necessary to keep the server running well. Can't the server just allow a certain numbes of requests? Couldn't KGS even built am own stat tool...one could sell it via KGS+. It's sad because there are still stat tools out there that apparently work, just not as good as joncol. Oh, well, it is what it is, I guess^^. If memory serves, I think the KGS database just limits the rate of requests (something like 1 per user per second?). I would imagine the script would still work if you just put a wait function in it to delay all the queries.

Author:	wms [ Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:14 am ]
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Mef is right. You can do all the requests you want as long as they are a few seconds apart. As for mirroring, it would be tricky just because there is private information in the database. Email of users who request that their email be private, real names from people who paid for KGS Plus, etc. Breaking the database apart to safely mirror part of it would be more work than I see myself doing here.

Author:	schultz [ Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:29 pm ]
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wms wrote: Mef is right. You can do all the requests you want as long as they are a few seconds apart. As for mirroring, it would be tricky just because there is private information in the database. Email of users who request that their email be private, real names from people who paid for KGS Plus, etc. Breaking the database apart to safely mirror part of it would be more work than I see myself doing here. Eh, that ol' "privacy" thing. Heh, fair enough. Thanks for the response.