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 Post subject: Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Post #121 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . 6 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I have no choice but to continue to attack as strongly as I can think of.

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 Post subject: Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Post #122 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:15 pm 
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I am thinking that he will probably escape. Does that mean I lose? I did get some points from this attack, but I currently seem to be a bit behind, still.

Where can I get more points?

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Post #123 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . 6 . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X 7 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Next comes the bottom edge. I'm completely alive here.
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 Post subject: Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Post #124 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:25 pm 
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I'm going to force myself to wait a bit before playing the next move - I'll at least wait until I look at the position for more than one sitting.

The J15 stone can be sacrificed since it does not give black a second eye. The problem is, I might not be able to contain him.

I need to suck out a few more points from this attack if possible.

I need to seriously consider whether I should keep playing locally, play solidly, or play a big point.

There are many possibilities here.

Despite the possibility of not containing topazg, I think that there's still a game to be had here. I don't think I'm all that far behind on points. I need to get back the flow...

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Post #125 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:34 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | x x . . . y y y y y y y y . . . x x x |
$$ | x x X . O . O . O y y y y . . . x x x |
$$ | x x X O . . X O y y O y y O . X x x x |
$$ | x x X O . . X O X X y y y . . X x x x |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . y y y . . . . x x |
$$ | . X O . . . . x . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X x . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | y . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | y y y O . X z z O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | y y y y O X z z z . X . . . X x x x . |
$$ | y y y y . O . z z x x x x x x x x x x |
$$ | y y y y . . . z . x x x x x x x x x x |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Maybe black has around 47 points for sure, by the points marked as "x". I'll count the "z" points as 1/2 since either of us can play there. That's around 52 points.

Let's say I have around 38 points (marked as "y") plus 4 for captures, which is 42. With komi, this would be 48.5.

Perhaps I am being optimistic, since I have weaknesses that I have to protect, and may not get the entire area on the top...

But I feel that there's a possibility still in this game! I thought I had to kill to have a chance, but maybe I can grab the flow in another way.


Edit: Added "z" values.

Of course, I think I am being very optimistic, since the area on top is not walled off... So I need to figure out a way to bring this optimism into a reality... :scratch:


Yes, perhaps it is too optimistic. Still, I feel there is a chance for white... Hmmm...

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Post #126 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:47 pm 
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Seems there is a weakness around 'a':
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


On the other hand, the marked stones become pretty weak if split:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X W W . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . W , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There's also the area around here:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X C C C . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O C C C . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . C C C . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It'd be nice if I could make a lot of territory around here:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . C , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . C C O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . C C C . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C X C . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It'd be nice to protect the local area around here:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O C C C . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O C O C . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It'd also be good to wall off territory around here:
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . C C C . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . C C C . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Which intersection can I play on the board so that all of these goals can be accomplished simultaneously??? :-?

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 Post subject: Re: 106. kirby vs topazg
Post #127 Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Should I still try to kill? Or threaten to do so? :scratch:

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Post #128 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:02 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I cannot play everywhere. This area seems to be the most important of those outlined earlier.

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Post #129 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:37 am 
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for obs only:
kirby need to see his weakness.
he should have played marked
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[go]$$Bcm69 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . 1 O . . C W . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O 3 O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #130 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:44 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, this is huge, and prepares the following 'a' :

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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O B B . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O b O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I was also expecting Kirby to fix 'b', and I don't think it does with respect to the marked Black stones, which I may be able to save.
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Post #131 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:02 am 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , 0 . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #132 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:24 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Probe first, then will decide on whether I push and cut somewhere else in the middle ...
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Post #133 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:28 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


His timing is pretty good, I think.

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Post #134 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:37 am 
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I feel like I am behind on points. I need to stretch out more points, but I already feel too loose. If I stretch out too loose, I will collapse.

I hope that I have not used up all of my chances for this game.

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Post #135 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:27 am 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O 3 O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A passive response, but a safe one, and not one I can immediately punish. I want E5 and to push and cut, but if my single stone dies at G10 that may fail. So, I may use it to make a second eye for this group in sente, as I can do lots of things with sente here. Let's see how he responds to this first.

PS the last move was prep to prevent this:

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[go]$$Bcm77 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 W . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O B O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X W B 2 . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W O 3 X 4 . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X 5 6 . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O C . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I die in a ladder here without the circled point, but with it, I can't be killed. I'm not sure if this cut does as much as I wanted now though.
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Post #136 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O 4 . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Looks like I screwed up:
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . 7 O 4 5 . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O 3 O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #137 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:25 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This could be silliness. I think I have two eyes regardless, so I want to make a ladder breaker whilst at the same time threatening to remove his ability to make points. If I'm ahead, I want to neutralise the open space that he has influence near.
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Post #138 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:30 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . . 6 O O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Might as well fix myself up.

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Post #139 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:35 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . 7 6 O O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Another careless move order error. I'm good at these.
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Post #140 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:37 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O . . O . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . X O X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . X X O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O . . . . X O O O . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O O . . X . . X O X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X . X X X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O X . O , O . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . 8 . O . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O . O . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O . X . . O X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O X . . . . X . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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