115 - robinz v. 1986

topazg · **#301**

I was kinda hoping to see robinz looking at this:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc White threats? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . X O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X C C X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X 4 | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O 7 | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O C | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O 3 | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 2 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X O X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O 6 | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Does White have any threats any more?

Although, is Black is just behind if something like:

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc What happens now ? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . O X . . X O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O O X . X O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 2 1 3 X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . O . X X X X X X . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . O O . X O O X O O O . . O X X X X . | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O O . . . O O X O X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc What happens now ? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . 7 . . X O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 8 9 O X . X O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . 1 | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . a X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . 3 | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . O . X X X X 5 X . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . O O . X O O X O 4 6 . . O X X X X . | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O 2 . . . O O X O X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc What happens now ? $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . 8 7 . . X O O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . X O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 0 9 1 X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . 1 | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . a X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . 3 | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . . . . | $$ | . . O . X X X X 5 X . . . O X . X . . | $$ | . O O . X O O X O 4 6 . . O X X X X . | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . | $$ | . . X O O O . . O 2 . . . O O X O X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

1986 · **#302**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm172 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O . | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O 1 X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Cool lets go!

robinz · **#303**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm173 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O 1 | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

1986 · **#304**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm174 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X O O . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 O O . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

robinz · **#305**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm175 prisoners: $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . 1 | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O . | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

EdLee · **#306**

robinz (after this fight),

1986 · **#307**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm176 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O 1 | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

robinz · **#308**

Can you please stop messing with the prisoner count?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm177 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O 1 | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

EdLee · **#309**

robinz wrote:

Can you please stop messing with the prisoner count?

1986 · **#310**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm178 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 . . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Loons · **#311**

ez4u · **#312**

Loons wrote:

robinz · **#313**

Um, you did it again. I presume by accident, but I'm not sure how you can flip the colours by accident :-?

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm178 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . O 1 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

1986 · **#314**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm180 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X 1 | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O . | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O . | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

you got the colors wrong for your count this is right though i guarantee it

jts · **#315**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm178 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 3 8 O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X 0 9 O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X 7 O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 5 4 6 X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 2 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm178 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 3 7 O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 0 O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X 8 O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 5 4 6 X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . 9 O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 2 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm188 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . 4 1 O O O O 6 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X 2 . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X O X X X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . O O 3 5 O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O X | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm178 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 3 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 0 O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X 8 O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 7 4 6 X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . 9 O 5 . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 2 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm188 Prisoner Count $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . 4 1 O O 5 O 6 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . X O X 2 . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X X O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X O X X X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . O O O 3 O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O X | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Is there even a ko? (And yes, I looked at W90 at G19... doesn't seem to work, though: B fills in one more liberty, then responds to f19 at e18, or f18 with L18.)

ez4u · **#316**

Obs:

Let's see if we can catch up a little here. First off it looks like Loons called in correctly on 1986's ko threat

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 3 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 5 4 9 X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . 8 O 6 . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . 7 O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 2 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O 0 . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

If

, Black starts a direct ko immediately at :b8:

. I think my first ko threat for Black would be :b10:

.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . 1 3 . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X 5 4 . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O 6 . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . 7 8 O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . 0 9 a . . . . . X X X . | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O X | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 2 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X . X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O . O X X . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . . O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

So White holds back with this :w7:

. Black keeps on coming and after :w9:

cuts at

(or "a"?). I find it hard to say what is the best way to play here or how it will all work out. However, Black definitely has a more interesting situation than in the game IMHO. Good call Loons!

Anyway Black answered the threat and White retook the ko. How about the suggestion of playing P2 as a ko threat?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc at the marked stone; above ; at :w1 $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . . . . . O X . O . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X . . O X X X . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X X O O X X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . O X X O . . X X X | $$ | . . O . O . . . . O . . O . O X . . X | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X 1 | $$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X O B | $$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X O O O | $$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X O X | $$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X O O O X O X | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . O O X X O O O 5 | $$ | . . O . X X X X . X . . . O X O X O O | $$ | . O O . X O O X O . . . . O X X X X O | $$ | X X O X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X O | $$ | . . X O O O . . O , . . . O O X 3 X X | $$ | X X X O X O . . . . O . . O 8 O X X 9 | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . 2 O X O X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O O O | $$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]

Remember the earlier comment on internal ko threats? White does not connect but instead answers :b2:

with

. This reduces the liberties on the lower Black group and makes capturing the two Black stones inside the White group an internal ko threat for White (expanding the group's liberties). Black has to throw in and White can recapture the ko. Of course White has to be committed to ignoring any Black ko threat after :w9:

. So Black has no internal ko threats and has to look elsewhere. Oops! The situation does not look good here for Black.

perceval · **#317**

For the prisoner count business a neutral voice:
You need a convent ion to fix if the number in black is the number of stones in black: :b3:

are the stones captured by black or the nuéber of captured black stone.

It seems that the convention is that the number is the number of stones captured
:w62:

--

, W capture a stone but forgets to add it to the prisoners
:b63:

/

/

--

(correct)

--

??

--

(inversion)
:w68:

/:b69:: -- :w4:

(back to normal)
:w70:

--

(W captures and add to the B stones captured --correct)

move :w72:

/

--

move

1986 switch colors to :b4:

Then robin keeps the convention at :b75:

, captured 2 with stones to bring it to :w6:

BUT facetiously inverted the order to :b2:

which confuses the matter
for
:w76:

-- 1986 kept the wrong b4: :w2:

--

(+ 1 capture from B added to the w stones)
1986 corrects the number BUT still invert the colors to
:w78:

--

--

--

(+1 W capture added to the W stones which is not the convention)

So it seems that indeed robin is the one respecting the color convention

Your count should be :w7:

can t help with the ko (good luck to both its hard) but here are your prisoner count anyway

perceval · **#318**

@ez4u:

topazg · **#319**

ez4u · **#320**

perceval wrote:

@ez4u:

115 - robinz v. 1986

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