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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X 1 X 3 . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . 7 . O O X O 2 X 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X a 6 8 . . W . . 4 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Have to block here first. I can live easily though it will probably be in gote. This way leaves the threat of a still.

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[go]$$cb:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X 1 X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X a 3 4 O O X O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 0 2 8 7 d W 9 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . b . 6 5 . c . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If I play 6 in the previous diagram at 2 here I live in a smaller area, still in gote. The diagram continues with a-d.

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[go]$$cb:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X 1 X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . 3 . O O X O a X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . 2 4 . . W 5 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Another possibility.

If he keeps sente I expect him to play somewhere on the right side. If 5 at 6 I can play 5 at a.

this was the plan when i made the tiger mouth. wait and see what he does next

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[go]$$cb:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . a . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . b . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Assuming White lives in Gote as he plans; these moves occur to me. I'd probably be inclined towards B, myself. Develop some of that intense influence. Also stop W making a base easily on the right.

I don't know, this feels wrong but just skipping it and playing at 'a' seems like it gives a similar result but I'm confined in a smaller area (as I showed in my last post.)

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[go]$$cb:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O W X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . a . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

pretty sure this is forced.

Have the players considered the double hane?

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[go]$$Bc Double-hane when you can!
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X 1 . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . 2 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X 1 5 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X 4 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . 7 2 3 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bc
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X 1 5 . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X 4 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . 6 2 3 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This seems great for black any way you slice it.

I don't really like this move either but because I played L3 I feel like I need to play this.

this seems very good for me. still have g4 to fix my wall in sente too. though i may need to play q10 soon

BUMMER! It seems neither player even considered it.

Double hane is possible but not mandatory, especially with the cutting points at a and b.

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[go]$$cmove 49 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X B . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . a O b . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I need to do some reading before making a move here. If I'm already alive I can take sente and go play somewhere else. If not I need to play something like e3.

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[go]$$Wcmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . 5 a . . O . 3 O 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm alive here. if he plays 4 at 'a' I play at 4 and I'm alive.

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[go]$$Wcmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . 2 3 . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

After 3 here I don't see a way for my group to be killed.

Anyways I think I'm alive in sente now. So I'd like to pincer his stone in the top right and/or reduce the influence of that big wall that I gave him.

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[go]$$cmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . a b . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . c . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

a and b are the two pincers I'm thinking about. I don't have any idea how to continue from other pincers such as c here. Ideally I want to find a continuation that allows me to play some stones in the center to reduce the effect of his wall. I haven't really studied any of these pincers though so I'll just have to try to come up with something.

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[go]$$Wcmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . 7 3 2 9 X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . 6 4 0 a . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Continuing with the cut at a I can probably take the corner. That gives me a lot of solid profit so I think it's bad for him even though he gets more influence working with his wall.

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[go]$$Wcmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . 7 O 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . 3 2 6 X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . 9 8 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . 0 . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

the above diagram...
continues in...
the diagram below...

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[go]$$Wcmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . O X X X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . O X O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X 1 . O . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . 4 2 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . 3 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . 4 . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . O . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I really don't know how to continue after either pincer. I think the high pincer gives me a better chance of reducing the influence of his wall though. If I play a low pincer he can try to keep me low.

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[go]$$cmove 50 b:1 w:0
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$$ | . . . O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X X X X . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . O O X O O X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . 3 1 O 2 . O 5 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 6 . 4 . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Maybe white is already alive but this is very painful. White can also capture 1 instead, but again he'll get a very small life in gote.

To add to what explo said, this is very bad for white to tenuki. It does not threaten to kill the top-left corner (no move does) and black gets so much in sente...

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[go]$$cmove 50 b:1 w:0
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The one thing I think these two players need to learn the most is to keep your groups healthy. Healthy does not equal alive. Healthy means your group cannot get pushed all over to the benefit of your opponent. But both players are currently taking big plays before urgent plays. If they were to stop doing this and focus on the weak groups they might improve by two stones.

well, im pretty sure i can still tenuki and live in there, so im going to take a big point, and it still puts a bit of pressure on w. im starting to look at my top left group and find a way to defend if i need it.

Good point. It is a very apparent problem among this 6-9 kyu level.

The mindset is that big points are so easy to tell that they are big, these other moves require some reading and effort to find.

Black needs to reply directly in the corner for the same reasons, he is sure that he can live but he's giving W a great position to strengthen himself and take profit.

I find myself pretty much right in this range, and definitely one of the biggest problems I have.

Still, I was surprised to see xDragon not take advantage of whites tenuki to essentially do what explo laid out. Did he also miss it? Maybe I've had this pulled on me too many times in the past.

I don't know this move might be stupid but I feel like an invasion would be too much. Playing closer to his wall feels like it would be too easy for him to cut the stone off, then I'd have to worry about it and my stones above.

The capping play here might give him more than I should be giving him but I'm not really sure. It feels safer and it reduces his influence. If he tries to cut it off from the top it will probably result in a fight, if he's more defensive I'll be able to build up more.

I'd like to kill his stone in the top right corner but without more support I don't know if I can do that yet.

I haven't had that much time to think about this even though it's been a long time since the last move so hopefully this isn't a big mistake.

This to me sums up the biggest problem with both players so far. Just because you "can" tenuki, doesn't mean you should. If tenuking means you get sealed up to 2 measly points while the opponent gets insane thickness, then you probably "cannot" tenuki.

For me as a spectator its also rather frustrating to watch. I think if you played a stone, that means you had a thought, a purpose there, and you owe it to yourself to demonstrate and continue with that purpose. If your just skipping around the board without regard for your original intent, then you can't really formulate any long term strategy. In a sense I feel like you have an "obligation" to your stones, and not fulfilling that is rather irresponsible.