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Author:  drmwc [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:26 am ]
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I've moved house! So I'm ready for a new Malkovitch game.

The highlight of my new house is likely to be the shed. I've put my weights in there. It's currently for storage, but I'll reinforce the floor and lay electricty to it to set up a home gym. It'll allow me to squat, deadlift, military press, push press, do kettlebell swings and Turkish get-ups, and cause mischief with a 50kg sandbag.

Being strong will make stronger at Go. (Possibly...)

Anyway, Japanese rules, 6.5 komi and I guess nigiri. (I don't know how nigiri works wih one of these things.)

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Enjoy the game, MW!

I will approach like my previous one, and so I'll show some of my reading and make hundreds of typos.

Author:  konfuzed [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:27 am ]
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Looking forward to it!

Author:  Magicwand [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:44 pm ]
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I will let you choose color

Author:  Tooveli [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:50 pm ]
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Should be an interesting game. Good luck both.

I've a feeling this one will get messy quickly.

Author:  Joaz Banbeck [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:06 pm ]
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I'm stocking up on popcorn and beer.

Author:  drmwc [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:53 pm ]
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Magicwand wrote:
I will let you choose color

Thanks!

I'll take black.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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I went to a Yang Yilun talk a few years ago, where he laid out the idea of this opening for B:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This looks like a thorougly good idea for B, so I play it quite a lot. (Of course, W quite often diverges from this.)

The direction of the approach at 7 is better than the approach at 5 - B is less low and has room to expand. So 7 is the direction B is really interested in. But it's worth playing 5 first as a probe. Then 9 is an excellent extension. B may get a big corner or a big side.

I assume this game is open book. I won't use any databases, though - I never hav used one, and I like to make my own mistakes.

Author:  EdLee [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:02 pm ]
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drmwc wrote:
I assume this game is open book. I won't use any databases, though
You cannot assume that. Better to explicitly agree on what's open and what's closed.

Author:  Magicwand [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:29 pm ]
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D16
i hate to think he has a chance to win, he displayed toomany weaknesses on his last game. This will be a short game

Author:  Uberdude [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:38 pm ]
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Magicwand wrote:
i hate to think he has a chance to win, he displayed toomany weaknesses on his last game. This will be a short game


:lol: :lol: Classic MW! I wonder who it will take for MW to not think he is the favourite, Lee Sedol?! I know winning in Go's not transitive, but lovelove crushed MW and drmwc beat lovelove. My bet on drmwc, and not a close game.

Author:  Splatted [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:01 pm ]
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Uberdude wrote:
Magicwand wrote:
i hate to think he has a chance to win, he displayed toomany weaknesses on his last game. This will be a short game


:lol: :lol: Classic MW! I wonder who it will take for MW to not think he is the favourite


Magicwand vs Uberdude? (Please) :salute:

Author:  Bill Spight [ Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:06 pm ]
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Uberdude wrote:
Magicwand wrote:
i hate to think he has a chance to win, he displayed toomany weaknesses on his last game. This will be a short game


:lol: :lol: Classic MW! I wonder who it will take for MW to not think he is the favourite, Lee Sedol?! I know winning in Go's not transitive, but lovelove crushed MW and drmwc beat lovelove. My bet on drmwc, and not a close game.


My bet is that it will be a short game. ;)


Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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My thought for :w2:.

If it's good enough for Dosaku, it's good enough for me. ;)

Author:  Loons [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:28 am ]
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Of course, we all know magicwand's first two moves

Author:  drmwc [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:20 am ]
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EdLee wrote:
drmwc wrote:
I assume this game is open book. I won't use any databases, though
You cannot assume that. Better to explicitly agree on what's open and what's closed.

I'm not that bothered - if MW wants to use DBs etc., he's welcome to.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Author:  cdybeijing [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:27 am ]
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drmwc wrote:
I've moved house! So I'm ready for a new Malkovitch game.

The highlight of my new house is likely to be the shed. I've put my weights in there. It's currently for storage, but I'll reinforce the floor and lay electricty to it to set up a home gym. It'll allow me to squat, deadlift, military press, push press, do kettlebell swings and Turkish get-ups, and cause mischief with a 50kg sandbag.

Being strong will make stronger at Go. (Possibly...)

Anyway, Japanese rules, 6.5 komi and I guess nigiri. (I don't know how nigiri works wih one of these things.)

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Enjoy the game, MW!

I will approach like my previous one, and so I'll show some of my reading and make hundreds of typos.


As someone who's just acquired his second 24 kg kettlebell, I whole-heartedly feel your joy.

Author:  Uberdude [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:09 am ]
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drmwc wrote:
Rank: 4 Dan European


drmwc wrote:
cause mischief with a 50kg sandbag.


:D

Author:  Magicwand [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:56 am ]
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D4
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i hate :b1: and :b3:
but middle game is what decide the game...so really doesnt matter

Author:  drmwc [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:08 am ]
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cdybeijing wrote:
As someone who's just acquired his second 24 kg kettlebell, I whole-heartedly feel your joy.


Cool - double 24s must be quite an intense workout. I've got a 32 (and a 28, 24, 20 and 2x16), but I'm not strong enough to press it yet. I can clean and press the 28, but not for a set of 5.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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Author:  Magicwand [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:38 am ]
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C6

Author:  Joaz Banbeck [ Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:51 am ]
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Magicwand wrote:
...
i hate :b1: and :b3:
but middle game is what decide the game...so really doesnt matter


Takeo Kajiwara wrote:
Move Two Lost The Game

Author:  drmwc [ Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:07 am ]
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A planned so far. I expect MW will pincer next, but he has many choices.

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