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 Post subject: igs 2k vs 2k Gremlins made me lose.
Post #1 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:01 pm 
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I read it and there was nothing. When he actually came, I started seeing things. What a crappy way to lose. It went from 5.5 win to 14.5 lose.

Lesson of the day is "Don't play when you are tired."




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 Post subject: Re: igs 2k vs 2k Gremlins made me lose.
Post #2 Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:41 pm 
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The first 24 moves look like they could have been played by a dan level player. However, I think the gremlins got you on move 25.

Moves 25, 27, and 29 were no good for you. The wall that you get is too close to your own stone at Q3. And your corner is still open to invasion at 'a'.
Whereas the 3 stones that white played at the same time ( 26, 28, 30 ) get white a good grip on the large shaded area below:

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[go]$$Bcm25
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . 6 . . . a . . |
$$ | . . X O ? ? ? ? ? O ? ? O 3 . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O # ? ? ? ? ? 2 . 5 . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O ? ? ? ? ? ? 4 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . ? ? ? ? . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And the aji of the squared stone is greatly compromised.

On the other hand, if you played 25 at Q5 as below, sometime later you can exploit the aji of your stone something like below:

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . 5 . . . . . . . B . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . O . . O . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X . . 3 4 . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . X X O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

And at this point it is not clear whose group is in more danger.

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 Post subject: Re: igs 2k vs 2k Gremlins made me lose.
Post #3 Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 4:20 am 
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I regretted move 25 as I was clicking. After it was done, I had to play through. :(

I read 162 correctly before. But when he actually played it, I was seeing things.

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