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Author:  otenki [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:34 am ]
Post subject:  lost by 3.5 how ?

I lost this game by 3.5 points but I'm not really sure where I went wrong.

I could find some very small mistakes but nothing big.

I'm pretty sure you guys will find some big ones.

(I'm black)

Thanks in advance !
Otenki


Author:  EdLee [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:52 am ]
Post subject: 

How do you feel about :b15: ? ( Why did you reject R4? )
For :b29:, why did you reject M4 ? ( If W o7, how about B P6? )

Author:  otenki [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re:

EdLee wrote:
How do you feel about :b15: ? (Why did you reject R4? )


Yeah I guess the nobi was a bit passive, now that I read it again the hane on the inside gives me a better result I think.
My original idea was to split those two stones but it didn't turn out that well.

Thanks!
Otenki

Author:  ez4u [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lost by 3.5 how ?

How many points do you calculate that you lost with 151, 155, and 157?

Author:  skydyr [ Fri Apr 25, 2014 8:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lost by 3.5 how ?

Alternatively, for :b13: did you consider Q5? White's looking for sabaki here, so he's probably not going to make himself heavy by standing up after the kick. Q5 seems to say "I've got my profit, where's yours?" Between the ogeima on the left and the precarious position of white's invasion, I'm not sure white has a strong followup. If white abandons the stone to claim the BL corner, black can kick easily. If white runs or attaches, I don't see a lot of gain for white. If white invades, black can split and start a running fight, while keeping the corner invasion available.

Also, at :b29:, what about P4 to cut?

Author:  otenki [ Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lost by 3.5 how ?

ez4u wrote:
How many points do you calculate that you lost with 151, 155, and 157?


More than 3.5 !

Yeah I needed to read them better, I just wasted those points!

Thx,
Otenki

Author:  otenki [ Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lost by 3.5 how ?

skydyr wrote:
Alternatively, for :b13: did you consider Q5? White's looking for sabaki here, so he's probably not going to make himself heavy by standing up after the kick. Q5 seems to say "I've got my profit, where's yours?" Between the ogeima on the left and the precarious position of white's invasion, I'm not sure white has a strong followup. If white abandons the stone to claim the BL corner, black can kick easily. If white runs or attaches, I don't see a lot of gain for white. If white invades, black can split and start a running fight, while keeping the corner invasion available.

Also, at :b29:, what about P4 to cut?


Thanks for the advice, maybe the cut at p4 is better indeed. capturing those two stones was not too important.

Initialy when I saw your post I thought q5 was a bit pasive but I think indeed it feels like a better option after looking at some continuations.
White can start attacking my ogemeima with H4 but that just gives white a living group and black influece so thats ok.

Thanks, I'll try to find a better move like yours next time !

Cheers;
Otenki

Author:  Bill Spight [ Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lost by 3.5 how ?

Go to move 185. :)



Edit: Corrected slight miscalculation.

Edit2: Right the first time.

Author:  otenki [ Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lost by 3.5 how ?

Bill Spight wrote:
Go to move 185. :)



Edit: Corrected slight miscalculation.

Edit2: Right the first time.


Ooh very nice, how could I have missed that ! :-)

Thanks!

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