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| Author: | dkuro [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:17 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Beginner game | ||
Hey, so if you all remember me I made a post about how to improve since I just started playing go and this was my 7th game ever playing which is supposedly against a 10k according to him. Although I won, I just wanted a review on anything I might be doing wrong since i'm still a beginner and still learning the fundamentals. I am playing black with handicap.
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:01 am ] |
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Hi dkuro, Here's your SGF: |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:04 am ] |
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Hi dkuro, Speaking of the fundamentals,  If W cuts at R3, is the ladder good for B or W ? Mistake. Can you find the correct local move ? Why do you need  to play ?
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| Author: | skydyr [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:00 am ] | ||
| Post subject: | Re: Beginner game | ||
Some comments: You're likely as strong as the person you were playing, if not stronger. You may want to try asking for games saying you are 15k or 12k or somewhere around there, because your attacking and whole board thinking are way ahead of your opponent. It escaped through a mistake in the end, but black's chase of the lower left white group was the right thinking, and many kyu players would happily cut and take part of it instead of taking all of it, which is their due.
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| Author: | dkuro [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:00 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: Hi dkuro, Speaking of the fundamentals, If W cuts at R3, is the ladder good for B or W ?I'd say it would be good for B EdLee wrote: Mistake. Can you find the correct local move ?Now that I look at it, would B s15 followed by W s17, B p15 or r15 be better? EdLee wrote: Why do you need to play ?Now that I look at it, it was probably unecessary but at the time I was looking at how fragile that white group was and I was wanting to see if I could attack it further than just capturing that one stone but that didn't really work out. |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:14 pm ] |
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dkuro wrote: If W cuts at R3, is the ladder good for B or W ?I'd say it would be good for B Better to fix your real weaknesses, like P4. dkuro wrote: Mistake. Can you find the correct local move ?Now that I look at it, would B s15 followed by W s17, B p15 or r15 be better? is correct.But after  connects at S17, the correct is neither P15 nor R15,but the tiger's mouth R14. This tiger's mouth R14 is sente.W must add a move to fix Q18, or his entire corner dies. After  lives, then you can fix your shape with at P15.dkuro wrote: Why do you need to play ?Now that I look at it, it was probably unnecessary cut has nothing to do with .If you want to atari at Q18 with , then do it directly.This is your 7th game ever -- the above 3 mistakes are already a lot of information to digest. Especially -- there are still many unexplored variations for that corner.It's worth it to go over these 3 mistakes, a few more times, until you feel more comfortable with the local variations. |
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| Author: | Uberdude [ Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Beginner game |
EdLee wrote: dkuro wrote: If W cuts at R3, is the ladder good for B or W ?I'd say it would be good for B Better to fix your real weaknesses, like P4. An important point to mention is the ladder only works because black has a liberty at p4. If white pushed at p4 and black blocked at p5 which is natural, then now the r3 cut can't be captured in a ladder. So Ed's suggestion of p4 connection is good not just to fix that weakness but also stops the r3 cut becoming a problem. |
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