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| Author: | pragmaticleas [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:22 pm ] | ||
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In the following game, I probably should have played move 59 at M2 and shouldn't have passed on move 215 instead of playing at P13. Maybe I should have handled white's invasion at N3 better as well? Are there any other obvious misplays or areas of improvement you noticed? Thanks in advanced for any comment.
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:37 pm ] |
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Hi pragma,  -1 point in gote (worse than Pass). Why ?( Instead, maybe L3, then J5 -- a possibility. )  ,  Both of you tenuki'd from the fighting at the bottom ?!? Locally, Q15. Did you consider P17 ? ..  This local result seems too good for W. L3 (maybe), then J5. Shared vital point. B3. You play too soft. ( , , , ). This is now very slow, very small; almost a pass. Small. ( Example: B11, E18, M18 -- ALL much bigger. ) Small. Small. Still B3 first. 
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| Author: | pragmaticleas [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:44 pm ] |
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Hi Ed, Thanks for your comments. EdLee wrote: -1 point in gote (worse than Pass). Why ?Fear of not being able to answer R2. Is there a way out if R2 is played by white? EdLee wrote: Did you consider P17 ? .. This local result seems too good for W.I probably did consider P17 but wanted to settle my stone at K17. |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:47 pm ] |
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pragmaticleas wrote: Is there a way out if R2 is played by white? Hi pragma, what's wrong with just connect R3 --what's your reading after that ? What can W do ? |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:51 pm ] |
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pragmaticleas wrote: I probably did consider P17 but wanted to settle my stone at K17. But you were in a fight. jumped into your moyo, and you completely just let W push you around, taking your territory!
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| Author: | pragmaticleas [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:53 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: pragmaticleas wrote: Is there a way out if R2 is played by white? Hi pragma, what's wrong with just connect R3 --what's your reading after that ? What can W do ? I am guessing giving white the chance to connect underneath with Q1 is a small loss compared to not playing a move like R8 as black at that point? |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:56 pm ] |
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pragmaticleas wrote: I am guessing giving white the chance to connect underneath with Q1 is a small loss compared to not playing a move like R8 as black at that point? Hi pragma, something important is missing from your view of the whole board:There are THREE unsettled groups at the bottom: 2 for W and 1 for B ! The fight is at the bottom. ( See note at . )No -- if W R2, B R3, W Q1, you clamp at S2 -- and kill all his eyes at the corner! You're in a fight. You're attacking W severely ! This is the big part missing from your moves ( See note at ).
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| Author: | pragmaticleas [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:08 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: pragmaticleas wrote: I am guessing giving white the chance to connect underneath with Q1 is a small loss compared to not playing a move like R8 as black at that point? Hi pragma, something important is missing from your view of the whole board:There are THREE unsettled groups at the bottom: 2 for W and 1 for B ! The fight is at the bottom. ( See note at . )I just assumed based on the quasi-enclosure that the bottom left white group is settled, but I guess it isn't if I pressure it enough with moves you suggested like B3? EdLee wrote: This is now very slow, very small; almost a pass.I might have played 71 in fear of white invading my two space extension on the left. Guess I shouldn't worry that much about it? |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:15 pm ] |
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pragmaticleas wrote: I just assumed based on the quasi-enclosure that the bottom left white group is settled, but I guess it isn't if I pressure it enough... Hi pragma, your assumption is based on some magic ( missing info ),and not from actual reading or direct, real game results. pragmaticleas wrote: ...with moves you suggested like B3? Not moves like B3, but exactly B3.Locally, how can W live if you get B3 ? ( More than a rhetorical question: you want to study and read the variations after B B3. ) |
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| Author: | pragmaticleas [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:30 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: pragmaticleas wrote: I just assumed based on the quasi-enclosure that the bottom left white group is settled, but I guess it isn't if I pressure it enough... Hi pragma, your assumption is based on some magic ( missing info ),and not from actual reading or direct, real game results. pragmaticleas wrote: ...with moves you suggested like B3? Not moves like B3, but exactly B3.Locally, how can W live if you get B3 ? ( More than a rhetorical question: you want to study and read the variations after B B3. ) B B3, W B2, B G2, W F2, B D2? |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:34 pm ] |
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pragmaticleas wrote: B B3, W B2, B G2, W F2, B D2? From here: |
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| Author: | pragmaticleas [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:50 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: W C2, B F2, then white either let black connect to the left underneath or let black split the F3 stone from the rest of the white group to the left? In any case, thanks very much for your insights Ed. |
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| Author: | EdLee [ Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:57 pm ] |
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pragmaticleas wrote: W C2, B F2, ...
Hi pragma, You're welcome.
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