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Author: | OnoNoGo [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:47 pm ] | ||
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Hey guys! I want to first thank you for your time in advance. I will post the interesting games I play here, trying to keep it all under the same topic. I'm looking for any advice from any level. I welcome all opinion from strong players but also from my peers trying to progress ![]() ![]() To begin with, here is a 2 stones handicap game I played against a 9-kyu today. I felt like I made mistakes but also that my reading was often right. I tend to attack too much and I leave my structures very weak in the process, but it was my opponent who let himself get in a very difficult position. I wish I had seen the genocide at the end, but at least I knew that he was under heavy pressure.
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Author: | EdLee [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:52 pm ] |
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Hi Ono, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Connecting directly at D4 does the job of ( ![]() ![]() If ![]() ![]() would you spend another move here? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Calvin Clark [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:18 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! | ||
A few comments. Congratulations on the win!
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Author: | OnoNoGo [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:28 am ] |
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EdLee wrote: Hi Ono, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Connecting directly at D4 does the job of ( ![]() ![]() If ![]() ![]() would you spend another move here? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hi EdLee ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm not sure about my follow up of ![]() ![]() From ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh double hane at G2, interesting. I imagine W would cut at G3 and then I have trouble calculating the follow-up. As I was building influence towards the other side, is the goal to sacrifice a stone and stop W here? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Calvin Clark wrote: A few comments. Congratulations on the win! Thank you! And thanks for the very good comments! I'll have a look at the Butterfly structure, looks like it is very good to know it. At ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks to both of you again! |
Author: | EdLee [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:34 am ] |
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Hi Ono, Quote: ![]() ![]() |
Author: | OnoNoGo [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 4:59 am ] | ||
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EdLee wrote: Hi Ono, Study W's shape. ( And yes, the overall result; have to read a bit farther. ![]() I'm going to set it up on my freshly acquired Goban and take my time to understand this shape. In the meantime, here is a game I just finished. I won but I feel like I gave way too much to my opponent. All comments are welcome!
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Author: | EdLee [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:57 am ] |
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Hi Ono, ![]() Are you trying to make a base ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() you would not continue to reply here to help B and hurt your L15 group. You need to take care of L15 ; e.g. L13, etc. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() B gives you a very good opportunity to get ahead with the hane L7. You're very happy to play L7 to help L15. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Black suffers severely from follow-itis here -- instead of hitting the vital points to limit your eyeshapes, he submissively follows you around. |
Author: | Calvin Clark [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:25 pm ] |
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OnoNoGo wrote: At ![]() Thank you for pointing that out. I have been pulling my hair out to figure out why inlining in sgf tags doesn't work properly, so I just made it an attachment and referenced it that way. Variations should show in the web control now. (The did if you downloaded and opened in an SGF editor.) I have to fix my other recent posts as well, it seems. OnoNoGo wrote: ![]() If you are suggesting playing the clamp at 'a', I don't think so. White has ignored black's kick at ![]() You can read a bit more about the Kick. With respect to the clamp, probably white will extend up at ![]() ![]() Another idea for white is to think, well, black has played 3 stones locally to my 1, so I'm going to treat it lightly and take a big move elsewhere. Depending on how the game goes from here, ![]() EdLee has commented well on your other game. I'd like to see one you lost, though. ![]() Edit: a little more about the clamp. A clamp is like ignoring a peep, and even a moron connects against a peep.. Even though this may look okay to you... It's the same result as if black ignored a peep and white pushed through and cut. Now it probably doesn't look as good. ![]() Of course sometimes the clamp is a tesuji. That's usually in the endgame on the edge of the board when the cuts aren't a problem, or in some cases of light play. Plays that are usually bad we call tesuji when they turn out to be good. ![]() |
Author: | OnoNoGo [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:17 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! |
Thank you EdLee for you many great comments. I'm learning a lot. And thanks to you as well Calvin! This is indeed very strong, and I'll be sure to notice the kick in the future. I'm reading the link that you shared right now. And I'll post a losing game very soon ![]() ![]() |
Author: | OnoNoGo [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:56 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! | ||
You know what Calvin, let's not waste time and let's post a losing game from yesterday ![]() In this game I felt like I was really well out of the opening and then the middle-game was getting better and better for me. But a costly misread and everything went to pieces.
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Author: | EdLee [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:38 am ] |
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Hi Ono, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You were just playing "locally", and reacting to (following) B, one move at a time. |
Author: | OnoNoGo [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:29 pm ] |
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EdLee wrote: Hi Ono, ![]() ![]() You were just playing "locally", and reacting to (following) B, one move at a time. Hi EdLee Actually I thought following him was more beneficial for me than for him. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought my influence towards the center was greater than his. And that would allow me to grab territory there. I thought I was winning after ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:41 pm ] |
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Hi Ono, It's true: your center stones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() How to use your stones efficiently decides the game. |
Author: | OnoNoGo [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:15 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! | ||
Here is a game I played today where I feel nothing went well. As I often lose against aggressive players like him, could you please point out the mistakes I made? I have plenty identified, but I'm sure there is a lot more I'm not seeing with my amateur's eyes. Thank you very much!
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Author: | Calvin Clark [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:44 am ] |
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EdLee wrote: Hi Ono, It's true: your center stones ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() How to use your stones efficiently decides the game. I agree, but... My feeling is black was a bit of a puppy dog for that sequence, following white around. Because black has H18, black's dragon is not in real danger, so black could have played e.g., K15 instead of F10. Ono, considering how the game evolved after this, how do you feel about move ![]() |
Author: | EdLee [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:14 am ] |
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Quote: I agree, but... The 'but' seems unnecessary. ![]() |
Author: | Calvin Clark [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:55 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! | ||
I think in this game you may have done better by spending some more time per move. It looks like you were blitzing through that fight at the top. In fact, it looks like you were playing about 8 seconds per move through the whole game, while your opponent was playing closer to 3 seconds per move. Sometimes when your opponent plays fast, it's tempting to match that pace, but you don't need to.
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Author: | WindCaliber [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:04 am ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! | ||
I was beaten by Calvin ![]() Hopefully most of my comments are correct-ish. Some might be repeated from Calvin's. EDIT: On second review, I'm pretty sure ![]() ![]() EDIT #2: ![]()
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Author: | Calvin Clark [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! |
WindCaliber wrote: EDIT: On second review, I'm pretty sure ![]() ![]() Q18 would be a good empty triangle, then. ![]() |
Author: | OnoNoGo [ Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: My games, looking for analysis! |
Thank you both WindCaliber and Calvin for your comments! You can't imagine how valuable your opinion is for my Go ![]() |
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