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Author: | Amelia [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:05 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Playing white with two stones handicap | ||
That's my second game on Kaya. I won't post the first, from which I resigned despite a huge lead after mistakenly deciding that my group was dead. Don't slack off on tsumegos. It was a very interesting game because my opponent, despite being ranked as 18k, was in fact a 14k KGS. Try to give two stones handicap to someone who's stronger than you and guess the result! Yeah, I struggled and died. In general I hate giving handicap because it forces me to play more agressively than I'd like. Please have a look, I'm especially concerned about the opening and early middle game (not that there was much of a late middle game).
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Author: | emeraldemon [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:44 pm ] | ||
Post subject: | Re: Playing white with two stones handicap | ||
Hopefully some stronger players will come along, but I took a quick look:
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Author: | Twitchy Go [ Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Playing white with two stones handicap |
Amelia wrote: That's my second game on Kaya. I won't post the first, from which I resigned despite a huge lead after mistakenly deciding that my group was dead. Don't slack off on tsumegos. It was a very interesting game because my opponent, despite being ranked as 18k, was in fact a 14k KGS. Try to give two stones handicap to someone who's stronger than you and guess the result! Yeah, I struggled and died. In general I hate giving handicap because it forces me to play more agressively than I'd like. Please have a look, I'm especially concerned about the opening and early middle game (not that there was much of a late middle game). Kaya is like that ![]() Yesterday I played a 1k at a 9stone handicap(my rating is 10k on kaya). After the game we found out the handicap was not to far off as she was a KGS 3d and I a KGS 5k. |
Author: | Amelia [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Playing white with two stones handicap |
Thanks, emeraldemon. I considered both the atari at P4 and the one at J19 but I couldn't decide on the right timing for those moves. It's hard for me to decide which point is bigger when playing. Quote: > You're not strong enough to kill a two-space jump. Yeah, I know. But I thought he was an 18 kyu. I could reasonably hope for some kind of mistake. And it seemed easier to catch up with him by killing a group than by trying a painful reduction where black was already so thick. Too much much whishful thinking, I guess! Quote: Kaya is like that Yeah, it's surprising but fun. It went: ![]() "Oh, I got rated 16k for losing my first game. Oh, well, guess I'll win the next one easily now." "Oops" "Hum..." "WTF?!" Resign ![]() |
Author: | emeraldemon [ Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Playing white with two stones handicap |
Quote: Yeah, I know. But I thought he was an 18 kyu. I could reasonably hope for some kind of mistake. And it seemed easier to catch up with him by killing a group than by trying a painful reduction where black was already so thick. Too much much whishful thinking, I guess! Look at some of the handicap malkovich games here on L19 to get an idea of how stronger players play handicap as white. viewtopic.php?f=37&t=5190 viewtopic.php?f=37&t=7479 viewtopic.php?f=37&t=4036 I won't presume to say to much, but even in a handicap game you shouldn't hope for mistakes. I know advice like "play lightly" probably won't help you too much, but maybe seeing the attitude and moves in some of these games might help you. Anyway 2 stones isn't actually that much; I would play it as a normal game, and just see what happens. |
Author: | Amelia [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Playing white with two stones handicap |
emeraldemon wrote: I won't presume to say to much, but even in a handicap game you shouldn't hope for mistakes. I know advice like "play lightly" probably won't help you too much, but maybe seeing the attitude and moves in some of these games might help you. Anyway 2 stones isn't actually that much; I would play it as a normal game, and just see what happens. Thanks. I'm looking into the first game you linked right now. It's quite fascinating. Light play is a mysterious notion to me, I know the concept, but as for playing it... There is a thin line between light play and leaving poor, wretched weak groups all other the place. I do not know where that line is. But studying the games you linked gives a pretty good idea of how beautifully the result can work when you do it well. I think I want to try it more. These Malkovich games are a brilliant idea. It's so interesting to read what the players think. |
Author: | Uberdude [ Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Playing white with two stones handicap |
emeraldemon wrote: I won't presume to say to much, but even in a handicap game you shouldn't hope for mistakes. Hoping for mistakes is ok, relying on them is the problem ![]() |
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