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Post #21 Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:13 pm 
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So do the people how like problems more than playing have any tips for those of us who can't commit to doing tsumego (like me?) What kind of problems do you do?


Life and Death, Tesuji, Opening Problems, Endgame problems, Connection/Cutting Problems etc. :)

I just follow the maxim of making sure they're relatively easy and I can solve them quickly and I then turn out 50-100 in a session usually. Whether it does me any good I've no idea but it's fun and I enjoy it. :P

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Post #22 Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:47 pm 
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emeraldemon wrote:
So do the people how like problems more than playing have any tips for those of us who can't commit to doing tsumego (like me?) What kind of problems do you do?


I've gone through phases of this, and I think you're asking the wrong question.

People who prefer tsumego over playing just don't like to compete so much. For them, tsumego provides much of the fun of thinking about go without having to enter a win-lose situation. Thus, it's not about finding enjoyable problems, because all (potentially solvable) go problems are enjoyable ... or not. I suspect that people such as yourself, who enjoy the competition, view tsumego as something like batting practice in baseball. It is useful to hone your skills, but it's really boring. Presumably, you don't enjoy tsumego because you see it simply as a means to an end.

For you, I think it's not about committing to tsumego, but rather about committing to improving. If you do this, there's no way around it.

On another note, to return to the thread topic, I still keep making new accounts, due to the notion that with a new name I could somehow unload the ballast of my weak play of the past. Probably, I'm up to about 900. Maybe I should take up baseball.

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Post #23 Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:55 am 
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daal wrote:
People who prefer tsumego over playing just don't like to compete so much.


I'd disagree, I love competing over a real board it's just online go that I don't like so much for a variety of reasons. Given a choice between a real world game and doing problems I'll always pick the real world game, I might pick doing problems over playing online though.

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Post #24 Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:28 am 
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Just played 8 games with bots, 2 wins, 3 loses and 3 escapes :tmbdown: Good thing is the bots won't be sad about playing such a prick :sad: (and I won't be able to play them anymore).

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Post #25 Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:25 am 
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3 escapes...I won't be able to play them anymore


As a matter of interest, if you subsequently go and resign the game, will the bots undo your blacklisting? I'm guessing not.

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Post #26 Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:55 am 
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I don't know, it will do me good not to play bots anyway, so I won't check that :-|

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Post #27 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:03 pm 
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I often listen to the HNG soundtrack whilst playing Go. :shock: :lol:

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Post #28 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 12:48 am 
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I buy more books than I have time to read.

Sometimes I go away and slowly make a cup of tea if I suspect my online opponent is impatient and trying to make me play quickly. (But I have a right to play within the agreed time controls, don`t I?)

I once declared an opponent (who had once blatantly escaped me after being rude) to have been "whipped" after he resigned. Upon analysing the game, I found that I had been somewhat lucky, so that made me feel rather less like a dominatrix.

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Post #29 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:33 am 
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Linokai wrote:
I often listen to the HNG soundtrack whilst playing Go. :shock: :lol:


Heh, recently I played a game with this music in loop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZFKLu5IH9A

Really cool!

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Post #30 Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:16 pm 
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I still own and play with 20$ go set. I've never purchased anything higher.


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Post #31 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:05 am 
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Post #32 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:59 pm 
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I'll add another few here:

1. I don't like thinking moves through, but still expect to win.
2. I've become something of a casual player after stating I wanted to turn pro in May.
3. I think my declaration of trying to become a pro hampered my improvement because I was so frustrated when I went on that long slide. And I never recovered from that playing-wise.
4. I play bots more often than I play people these days.
5. Anyone I lose to is a sandbagger. Anyone I beat is weak. (joking)

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Post #33 Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:47 am 
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1) I like to say I play using instinct though my "instinct" is just a bunch of memorized formations and reactions to people playing the same move all the time. :grumpy:

2) My emotions effect my game to much and I easily lose control of the board on a bad day. :grumpy:

3) I never read a single go book in my life. :blackeye:

4) After defeating a really strong opponent some how (I don't know if he made a mistake or it was because I did not realize he was a few dans at the time) I lost every match that was challenged to me by any one after that. :blackeye:

5) After recently returning to go I found my patience was totally destroyed. :-|

Oh dear, look at all that shame. LOL. :oops: :roll:

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Post #34 Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:18 pm 
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I was playing a game and spent 38 moves under the false assumption that my opponent's enormous game-deciding dragon was connected. It wasn't.

Normal story, right?

It's a correspondence game. Those 38 moves probably took more than a month.

In my defence, he *should* have connected the group, he just made a mistake. So I'd filed it under "things I can't kill", and then went on to figure out how to salvage the game.

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Post #35 Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 4:20 am 
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Go Memes on Facebook (this one I could make a shared album if more people want to contribute … it would be our album then and not just mine.)
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Prepare to see your creations out in the wild.

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Post #36 Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:56 pm 
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Post #37 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:28 pm 
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Lol!!! So true! I tell people I am a born again GO player. So you can imagine the evangelizing.

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Post #38 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:57 pm 
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daal wrote:
emeraldemon wrote:
So do the people how like problems more than playing have any tips for those of us who can't commit to doing tsumego (like me?) What kind of problems do you do?


I've gone through phases of this, and I think you're asking the wrong question.

People who prefer tsumego over playing just don't like to compete so much. For them, tsumego provides much of the fun of thinking about go without having to enter a win-lose situation. Thus, it's not about finding enjoyable problems, because all (potentially solvable) go problems are enjoyable ... or not. I suspect that people such as yourself, who enjoy the competition, view tsumego as something like batting practice in baseball. It is useful to hone your skills, but it's really boring. Presumably, you don't enjoy tsumego because you see it simply as a means to an end.


That might be part of it, the other part is that it removes the social element for people how dislike/have problems with interaction.

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Post #39 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:11 pm 
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And a confession:

Going to Asian resturants with Go books or with iPad or Android phone on tsumego site or apps or playing AI.
To 1) Get to know where personal is from and 2) Just to get to discuss go. It worked twice at least, at a Dumpling place (Fang Yuan Shi Wu), one of the women working there said very fun but very hard. Second place was a Sushi resturant (Sushibar Sen Sei) and the owner just asked me if I played, the status of the game in Sweden and how the International scene looked currently.

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Post #40 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:21 pm 
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Boidhre wrote:
daal wrote:
People who prefer tsumego over playing just don't like to compete so much.


I'd disagree, I love competing over a real board it's just online go that I don't like so much for a variety of reasons. Given a choice between a real world game and doing problems I'll always pick the real world game, I might pick doing problems over playing online though.


This pretty much sums up the way I feel. I have "Online Go Anxiety" (http://senseis.xmp.net/?OnlineGoAnxiety) something fierce. I'd much rather work tsumego than play Go online. On the other hand, I'd much rather play in person than work tsumego.

All of that being said, my opportunities to play in person locally are few and far in between. I make it a point to play online regulary, usually via DGS but sometimes via IGS when I muster up the courage. I also make it a point to fill the voids in my day with tsumego that I carry around on my phone or see on various websites.

I think the post about committing to getting better in general hits the nail on the head. There's bits of the game I'm sure we all don't like as much as other aspects. That's part of it.

The most important thing of all is just to have fun.

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