Kirby's Study Journal

Kirby · **#561**

I thought about this more during my lunch break.

I'm starting to think it can result in ko in multiple ways:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Status? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 7 . 3 4 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Status? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 5 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 4 3 6 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

The sad part is, I'm not 100% sure, yet. This seems like something I shouldn't struggle with as much, but I guess I am.

I'll think about this more, as I go back to my day job.

See you after work...

Kirby · **#562**

Bill Spight wrote:

A couple of top of the head comments on the game vs. oggy.

:w14:

Why not the pincer cum approach of R-13?

:w18:

Why the footsweep? If you don't want to reply at F-16 or F-17, surely a pincer is indicated, to work with the White stones in the bottom left.

:w32:

Too close, I think. How about C-11 or D-12?

:w34:

Very bad. Surely G-14.

Why not the pincer cum approach of R-13?

> Is this one better? I thought that there was more potential for development on top. Is R13 better since it affects the strength of the groups in the local area?

:w18:

Why the footsweep? If you don't want to reply at F-16 or F-17, surely a pincer is indicated, to work with the White stones in the bottom left.

> I think the footsweep is a conditional move - the condition being that white has backup on the left side of the board and on the top. I think this is the case here with white K16 and C6. I can't think of better conditions.

:w32:

Too close, I think. How about C-11 or D-12?

> Yeah, they both seem a lot better.

:w34:

Very bad. Surely G-14.

> Shaddy suggested the same, but I don't totally get it. My reason for pllaying E13 was that I increased the strength of my floating group, while pushing him into an area where he couldn't make many points.
I guess the negative part of this move is that I strengthen his group. Is that it?

Bill Spight · **#563**

Kirby wrote:

Bill Spight wrote:

A couple of top of the head comments on the game vs. oggy.

:w14:

Why not the pincer cum approach of R-13?

:w18:

Why the footsweep? If you don't want to reply at F-16 or F-17, surely a pincer is indicated, to work with the White stones in the bottom left.

:w32:

Too close, I think. How about C-11 or D-12?

:w34:

Very bad. Surely G-14.

Why not the pincer cum approach of R-13?

> Is this one better? I thought that there was more potential for development on top. Is R13 better since it affects the strength of the groups in the local area?

My sense is that R-13 is a dual purpose play, while the approach from the top allows Black to shore up his weakness on the right. Still, you may be right.

Bill Spight wrote:

:w18: Why the footsweep? If you don't want to reply at F-16 or F-17, surely a pincer is indicated, to work with the White stones in the bottom left.

Kirby wrote:

> I think the footsweep is a conditional move - the condition being that white has backup on the left side of the board and on the top. I think this is the case here with white K16 and C6. I can't think of better conditions.

It seems clear that the White group on the left side is too far away and that it will work better with a pincer.

Bill Spight wrote:

:w34: Very bad. Surely G-14.

Kirby wrote:

> Shaddy suggested the same, but I don't totally get it. My reason for playing E13 was that I increased the strength of my floating group, while pushing him into an area where he couldn't make many points.
I guess the negative part of this move is that I strengthen his group. Is that it?

Yes, you strengthen the Black group. See http://senseis.xmp.net/?SqueezingOutTheToothpaste

But you also end up weakening your floating stones. Three stones in a row on the E file are hardly strong. They are, in fact, heavy. Better to strengthen your two stones now with a jump to G-14.

ez4u · **#564**

Kirby wrote:

I thought about this more during my lunch break.

I'm starting to think it can result in ko in multiple ways:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Status? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 7 . 3 4 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Status? $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 5 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 4 3 6 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

The sad part is, I'm not 100% sure, yet. This seems like something I shouldn't struggle with as much, but I guess I am.

I'll think about this more, as I go back to my day job.

See you after work...

The large knight's move is often a mistake, as it seems to be here. White should live with 2 through 6. Black can't play 7 because of 8, so White can play 'a' to live after Black connects.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 7 . 4 3 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | a O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

The small knight's looks like the move, making ko. But the ko does not seem like such a burden for White. White takes first after 7. When Black retakes after a ko threat/response, 8 is an internal ko threat. Again after take, threat, response, retake, White can play 'a' as an internal ko threat, answered by 'b'. If later White decides to win the ko, the play at 'c' creates life via a double ko. Somewhere along the way White can choose to play 'd' as another internal ko threat since there is a White stone on C12 in the game. At the point in the game where Black attacked the corner, though, White is probably better off to give up the corner in exchange for two moves in a row on the outside. There are a lot of large normal moves that White could take advantage of.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | a 5 2 1 4 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | b 8 3 6 7 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | c O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | d X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Kirby · **#565**

ez4u wrote:

The large knight's move is often a mistake, as it seems to be here. White should live with 2 through 6. Black can't play 7 because of 8, so White can play 'a' to live after Black connects.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 7 . 4 3 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | a O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Hey, ez4u. Actually, I read this variation, too, but then I was afraid of this response:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 3 5 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Bill Spight · **#566**

Didn't Shaddy show us the play?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 4 . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 2 1 4 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 0 3 6 9 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 2 1 4 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 0 3 6 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | 9 O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 2 1 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 0 3 6 9 7 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 8 O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Kirby · **#567**

I see, Bill. I stopped reading after 5 in the second diagram. I missed that Shaddy explained this, too.

ez4u · **#568**

Kirby wrote:

ez4u wrote:

The large knight's move is often a mistake, as it seems to be here. White should live with 2 through 6. Black can't play 7 because of 8, so White can play 'a' to live after Black connects.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 7 . 4 3 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | a O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Hey, ez4u. Actually, I read this variation, too, but then I was afraid of this response:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 3 5 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

A little theory + poor practice dies again! :sad:

Bill's look better. I call them Bill's because I can't see a post by Shaddy where he presents them. What post # is that in?

Just to redeem things a little (or make a bigger fool of myself), doesn't White win the fight if he connects below instead of playing C19 in the game? A case of big eye versus no eye?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . O O X X . X X O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X O O O O X . O X O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . O X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | O O X X O . . O X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . X . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Bill Spight · **#569**

ez4u wrote:

Kirby wrote:

ez4u wrote:

The large knight's move is often a mistake, as it seems to be here. White should live with 2 through 6. Black can't play 7 because of 8, so White can play 'a' to live after Black connects.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 7 . 4 3 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | a O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Hey, ez4u. Actually, I read this variation, too, but then I was afraid of this response:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 3 5 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

A little theory + poor practice dies again! :sad:

Bill's look better. I call them Bill's because I can't see a post by Shaddy where he presents them. What post # is that in?

I misremembered Shaddy's commentary. :oops:

He shows the following ko.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 4 3 . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

If I had remembered correctly I probably would not have found the following sequence.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 2 1 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 3 6 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Edit:

But this works too, doesn't it? :mrgreen:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 4 3 . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 6 O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Kirby · **#570**

ez4u wrote:

Just to redeem things a little (or make a bigger fool of myself), doesn't White win the fight if he connects below instead of playing C19 in the game? A case of big eye versus no eye?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . O . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X . O O X X . X X O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X O O O O X . O X O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . O X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | O O X X O . . O X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . X . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Yes, I think you're correct. Unless black has a sneaky move somewhere, it looks like white wins by 1 liberty:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 6 O 3 X 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X 4 O O X X . X X O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X O O O O X . O X O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | 7 O X O X X . O X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | O O X X O . . O X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O X . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . X . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 6 O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 1 3 O O X X . X X O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 5 O O O O X . O X O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | O O X O X X . O X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | O O X X O . . O X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O X 4 . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X 2 O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . X . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | O O O X X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 1 . O O X X . X X O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . O X O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | O O X O X X . O X O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | O O X X O . . O X X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X O . X O . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . 2 O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X X X O . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | O O O O X O . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X O O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | X . X O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X O O X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . X . . , X . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

So, I guess the fact that I played C19 in the game proves that I didn't care enough about the capturing race to read out this sequence.
That's a big problem.

Shaddy · **#571**

Kirby wrote:

ez4u wrote:

The large knight's move is often a mistake, as it seems to be here. White should live with 2 through 6. Black can't play 7 because of 8, so White can play 'a' to live after Black connects.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 6 1 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 7 . 4 3 8 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | a O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Hey, ez4u. Actually, I read this variation, too, but then I was afraid of this response:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . 4 3 5 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

Here is what I had in mind. (and I didn't post any variations).

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 4 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 3 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

The small monkey jump seems to be ko - I thought it was alive against that, too, but I was wrong.

Kirby · **#572**

Sounds selfish, but somehow, it is refreshing to know that other people can be wrong about variations, other than me :p

I may just be saying this since I just drank wine...

Bill Spight · **#573**

Shaddy wrote:

Here is what I had in mind. (and I didn't post any variations).

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . 4 1 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . 3 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O O X . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . O X O X X . . . O . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O . X . . . . . . . . X . . . |[/go]

The small monkey jump seems to be ko - I thought it was alive against that, too, but I was wrong.

You're right. The ko in the SGF file was Kirby's. :lol:

Kirby · **#574**

I've had a drought on winning. Finally, I was able to win a game. Here, I played KGS 1d.

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I will post variations later, but I have to go to my day job for now.

ez4u · **#575**

When you pulled out your stones with :b1:

below, what was your plan if White captures them? I assume you would cut with :b7:

but White gets a lot of central strength.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . O O X O X X X . . . | $$ | . . X , . X . . . , X O O O O X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O 1 3 5 8 7 O O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 4 . 6 9 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O O O O X O . | $$ | . . . , O . . . . , . X O . . O O X O | $$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . O O O X X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kirby · **#576**

@ez4u: The simple answer is that I overlooked the net :-)

Also, sorry I didn't get around to posting variations, yet. Mostly, I'll probably go over what I already mentioned in the SGF.

Yesterday, I had a match for the AYD, which I took quite some time on (and I lost :-(

), so I didn't get to doing this, yet.

Kirby · **#577**

I played another game on KGS today against KGS 1d.

It's been awhile since I played rated KGS game, and I played too fast. He also played too fast, so it's kind of not really a go game. Well, it's go, but the strategy doesn't make sense.

Anyway, here's my review.

Kirby · **#578**

Some problem areas.

Position 1

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 14 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I played the marked move, but I don't think it's the biggest area, yet. The right side is still open, so I think it's bigger.

I should play here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 14 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . C . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't think black will play in the marked area.

Position 2

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 26 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . W . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I was afraid of black's potential, so I played the marked move. But I think it's a bad move. If I try to make something in that area, black will get solid points in the marked area.

I think I'm already a bit behind because of my slow move from Position 1, but at this point, I should just stay calm and play normally.

Something like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W Position at move 26 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . X 6 X 2 . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . O 4 3 1 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I kind of like black's position, but I think it's my best option right now.

Position 3

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 28 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

To add to the mayhem, I started to move out with the marked stone. Seriously... What can I really expect here? While he's attacking my group, he'll get tons of points in the center and on the right.

AND I don't have the corner. I should still just take the corner, I think.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 28 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . . . X . X . . . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . W . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Position 4

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 52 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I played the marked move, which is big, but my intention was to reduce black later. If my goal was to reduce, I should start out here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 52 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Or, if I'm patient, I can follow up:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 52 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Though, black may be getting too big in this variation.

Anyway, the way I played in the game was inconsistent.

Position 5

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 58 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . W . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The marked move is too simple minded. I think I should make a better connection:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 58 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Knight's move can be cut, but I'll get strength if he cuts now.

Position 6

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 74 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O X X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X O . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . W X X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I'm being too aggressive. I can't even capture these stones.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 74 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X O 7 . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O 5 . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O 6 O X X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X O . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . 2 O X X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . 4 1 3 O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . , . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I need to stop overplaying.

Just to reiterate the idea that it's too aggressive, I think he's fine if he just keeps pressing here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 79 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O X X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X O . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . O O X X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . B X X O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . . O . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can't really stop him:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 79 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . O . . . . X X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . X X . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . X O . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O X X . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . a . X O X X O . . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . 5 2 O O X X O O . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . 4 3 1 X X O . . . O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . b . . . O . O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . . . . . X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

'a' and 'b' are miai. So what am I really doing here?

Position 7

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 156 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . X O O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X X X O X . . . X X O O O O . | $$ | . . . , O O X O . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . X O . . X X X X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X X O O O O X . . | $$ | . . O O O . O . O X O O X X O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . O X X . . . | $$ | . W . X . . . O O X O . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O O . O . O X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O X X X O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . O O X X O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O . X X O . O X O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . X , X O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . O X . X X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The move above is a normal move, but maybe I can play here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 156 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . X O O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X X X O X . . . X X O O O O . | $$ | . . . , O O X O . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . X O . . X X X X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X X O O O O X . . | $$ | . . O O O . O . O X O O X X O O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X O . . O X X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . O O X O . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . X O O . O . O X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O . O X X X O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . X O X X O X . O . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . O O X X O O X . . O X . | $$ | . . O X . . O . X X O . O X O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . X , X O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . O X . X X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

At least it's an annoying move by white.

Position 8

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 185 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . X O O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X X X O X . . . X X O O O O . | $$ | . . . , O O X O . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . X O . . X X X X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X X O O O O X . . | $$ | . O O O O O O . O X O O X X O O X . . | $$ | O X X . O X . . . X O . . O X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . X O O X O . . O O X . . . | $$ | . . O X . . X . X O O . O . O X . X . | $$ | . O O X . O X . X O . O X X X O X O . | $$ | W X O O X . X . X O X X O X . O . X . | $$ | . . X X O X X O O X X O O X . . O X . | $$ | . X O X O O O O X X O . O X O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . X , X O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . O X . X X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I played the marked move for a ko.

But of course, why not just play here???

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$ Position at move 185 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . O O . X . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X O X . X O O . . . O . . . . . | $$ | . . O O X X X O X . . . X X O O O O . | $$ | . . . , O O X O . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . X O O . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . X O . . X X X X . . . . . O X X . . | $$ | . . X X . . . . . . X X O O O O X . . | $$ | . O O O O O O . O X O O X X O O X . . | $$ | O X X . O X . . . X O . . O X X . . . | $$ | . O X X . . X O O X O . . O O X . . . | $$ | W . O X . . X . X O O . O . O X . X . | $$ | . O O X . O X . X O . O X X X O X O . | $$ | . X O O X . X . X O X X O X . O . X . | $$ | . . X X O X X O O X X O O X . . O X . | $$ | . X O X O O O O X X O . O X O O . . . | $$ | . . O , . . . . X , X O . X X X O O . | $$ | . . . O . O . . O X . X X O . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Clearly, it's better. I think I have a good lead if I play this move.

But in the game, it was close, in my opinion, when he quit.

Kirby · **#579**

Takeaways From This Last Game

1. Don't play too quickly. This is a thinking game. Think.

2. Be patient, and don't jump into the opponent's area - don't overplay.

3. Play the biggest moves.

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As a side note, I am thinking about whether I should start making streaming go videos. Seems to be all the rage these days. I'm still deciding, though, since there's some allure to hiding behind an avatar on the forums.

oren · **#580**

Kirby wrote:

As a side note, I am thinking about whether I should start making streaming go videos. Seems to be all the rage these days. I'm still deciding, though, since there's some allure to hiding behind an avatar on the forums.

Mask and a voice changer. Darth Vader live go streaming!

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