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Offline Gresil
 Post subject: Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Post #361 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:18 am 
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[go]$$Bc 87A W37 B 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . B . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O . O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



As diagrammed at my previous move. At that time I didn't consider K11 and L10, but neither works.

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Offline daniel_the_smith
 Post subject: Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Post #362 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:05 am 
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(I think Joaz's diagrams are too easy on black but I don't have time to look at it in detail atm)

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Offline Violence
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Post #363 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:55 am 
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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #364 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:09 am 
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[go]$$Bc 88A W37 B 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O W O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think we need to block on this side unless we're willing to sacrifice everything around J13.

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[go]$$Bc 87A W37 B 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X 5 X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . 4 . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . 6 X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 8 7 . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X 9 . . . O . B W . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O 1 O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wc 87A W37 B 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X X X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . O 6 O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . O X . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X X 1 2 . O . X O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X 3 X . . O X O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O 5 4 . . . X O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


We could consider this alternative, except that 6 prevents the 'sacrifice' from becoming a seki. As it stands, if we save L10, I think we can play something like this to get seki or better. My concern is that weak white group up top, but I don't think we can stop to fix it yet.

Edit:
I did not see or expect this move by Gresil, and I prefer it to the alternative I had considered.

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
 Post subject: Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)
Post #365 Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:39 pm 
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I'm going to do some deep reading here. It may take a few days.

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #366 Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:46 am 
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If we go with younger brother's move, the following is forced:

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[go]$$Bc Diagram #1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . 3 . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X 1 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O W O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


From there, we have several possibilities. None of them work. In all variations that I can find, our group gets cut off and killed, or black captures our cutting stone at N11 and leaves us with two running groups.

We can try P12 for our first move:

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[go]$$Wc Diagram 2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . 6 . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O 4 . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O 5 O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O 2 . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O 3 . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


...or we can try the safer P13:

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[go]$$Wc Diagram 3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O 1 O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O 3 2 0 . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O 7 6 5 8 . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


...which continues like this:

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[go]$$Wc Diagram 3a
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X 4 . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O 3 . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . 6 . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O 2 . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O 1 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


...or this:

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[go]$$Wc Diagram 3b
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . 6 8 . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X 3 7 O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O 4 . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X 5 . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O 1 . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O O O 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


We can try P14:

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[go]$$Wc Diagram 4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . 2 . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O 3 1 X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O 5 O 8 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X 4 6 . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O . 7 . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



There are numerous variations, more than I can show here, but the following themes repeat:
White 'a' is always answered with black 'b'
The cut at 'c' is a major problem for white. It threatens to kill westward or connect eastward.
The marked black stones run west, then either escape southward or connect to friends to the north
When the marked black stones run east, the cuttingpoint at 'd' becomes the beginning of a ladder.

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[go]$$Bc Diagram #5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X b . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O a . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O c . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O B O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O B B . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X W . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O d . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, I think that I have to change younger brother's move, but the alternative is just as problematic:

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[go]$$Wc Diagram #6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . C . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O 2 O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The one possible saving grace is that it is way more complicated, and there may be a winning tesuji around F12.
But overall, I am very sceptical of white's chances of winning this game.

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Post #367 Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:15 am 
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Why is 2 'forced' in Joaz's diagram 1?

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Offline Joaz Banbeck
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Post #368 Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:42 am 
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Going the other way looks no better. Shapenaji presumably has something figured out but I don't know which way it is. If I guess wrong this way, it costs us three points when he changes it. If I guess wrong the other way, we lose two points when I change it, and another two points when he changes it back.
I'm just doing damage control in ignorance, with nothing but simple math to guide me. :roll:
3<4, therefore...
...I approve.

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Post #370 Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:32 am 
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[go]$$Bc 89A W37 B 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X B . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Still following my prediction earlier.

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Post #371 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:29 am 
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Of course.

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Post #373 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:33 pm 
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[go]$$Bc 90A W37 B 42
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$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X W . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'll refrain from doing deep analysis, and simply say, if we weren't going to cut, we wouldn't have pushed, or peeped for that matter.

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Post #374 Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:12 pm 
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Lord Raglan says that I must attack. Therefore...


I approve.

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Post #376 Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:17 am 
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[go]$$Bc 91A W37 B 42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O . . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O B . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This cut keeps white's noodle weak. It's not a big obstacle but he can't clear it in one move. I'll ignore his stretch/atari and make life at the top next.

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Post #377 Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:55 am 
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But I will be correcting the next one if he really ignores the atari-- if we extend it threatens to capture in a ladder.

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Post #378 Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:19 am 
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[go]$$Bc 91A W41 B 42
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$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O B . O O X . . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X O . O . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O . . . , . . . |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


fix'd.

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Hey, you're a move ahead of me... an interesting order-of-play riddle.

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